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> No one talks to anyone from other companies, to the point of awkwardness Haha yeah. It helps to have a few women around, but especially when there are lots o

> No one talks to anyone from other companies, to the point of awkwardness Haha yeah. It helps to have a few women around, but especially when there are lots of male IT coworkers present this is definitely a thing.

creep 9y ago
Yes! Men and women actually work better together than groups composed of just men or just women [1] [2] The thinking is, men prefer taking risks, while women prefer to limit risks. In cooperation, men can push women to see the benefit of a risk (and in turn she gains more experience of risk), and women can push men to hold off of risks that might be detrimental. Women are good at synchronizing group thought, in that they make a space for others to talk and they generate talking points by asking important questions, while men generally like taking the floor. So for the man who does not take the floor of his own accord, women are more likely to create a space where he can talk. Personally, in an environment like WeWork, I can see men and women having more conversations and opening up the place a little. 1. https://www.td.org/insights/women-and-men-working-together-more-sustainable-successful-work-environments https://www.td.org/insights/women-and-men-working-together-m... 2. https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2007/nov/01/gender.world https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2007/nov/01/gender.world
- MrBuddyCasino 9y ago
  Fully agree. Narcissistic men are annoying - I don't get how they seem to lack self-awareness, and they are toxic for teamwork. Not that women don't have their downsides, too - some can be neurotic, but at least the bitchy ones tend not to work in IT. I'm really glad we have a few female developers.
  - hnzix 9y ago
    Well, if you're guessing people's personality you also have to factor in their star sign and the shape of their skull.
  - creep 9y ago
    I said nothing about narcissistic men. All I'm saying is that men and women work well together. I don't know why you made this comment in such a hateful spirit.
- softawre 9y ago
  Downvoters care to explain? We always say diversity is good, but when somebody provides an example of why it is good, they get downvoted?
  - MrBuddyCasino 9y ago
    There are always downvotes with these topics. Either you are perceived as a patriarch or an SJW. I suppose thats mostly because different people have made different experiences and are biased in one or the other direction. I personally don't care - I think James Damore made some valid points, and I also like and value my female colleagues. To me thats not a contradiction.
  - whataretensors 9y ago
    I didn't downvote, but maybe because it was a gender-based classification of behavior backed up by two opinion pieces?
dazc 9y ago
Funnily enough, the couple of times I've done co-working it was the women who were the problem. One was very aggressive, always having loud arguments on the phone and slamming doors as she left the building. Another one seemed to think that because she and her partner were renting 2 desks this made her twice as a important as anyone else? She was playing music one day so I asked her to turn it down. She never spoke to me again and made me feel very uncomfortable whenever our paths crossed. Of course this isn't representative of all women but, just saying, being female isn't a guarantee of good behaviour.
- MrBuddyCasino 9y ago
  Didn't want to imply that women are better people - I had a female sales rep in the office for some time that talked on the phone a lot and did so very loudly with complete disregard for everyone else, I wanted to throw her out the window. Never had bad experiences with female software devs though.

creep 9y ago

Yes! Men and women actually work better together than groups composed of just men or just women [1] [2] The thinking is, men prefer taking risks, while women prefer to limit risks. In cooperation, men can push women to see the benefit of a risk (and in turn she gains more experience of risk), and women can push men to hold off of risks that might be detrimental. Women are good at synchronizing group thought, in that they make a space for others to talk and they generate talking points by asking important questions, while men generally like taking the floor. So for the man who does not take the floor of his own accord, women are more likely to create a space where he can talk. Personally, in an environment like WeWork, I can see men and women having more conversations and opening up the place a little. 1. https://www.td.org/insights/women-and-men-working-together-more-sustainable-successful-work-environments https://www.td.org/insights/women-and-men-working-together-m... 2. https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2007/nov/01/gender.world https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2007/nov/01/gender.world

MrBuddyCasino 9y ago
Fully agree. Narcissistic men are annoying - I don't get how they seem to lack self-awareness, and they are toxic for teamwork. Not that women don't have their downsides, too - some can be neurotic, but at least the bitchy ones tend not to work in IT. I'm really glad we have a few female developers.
- hnzix 9y ago
  Well, if you're guessing people's personality you also have to factor in their star sign and the shape of their skull.
- creep 9y ago
  I said nothing about narcissistic men. All I'm saying is that men and women work well together. I don't know why you made this comment in such a hateful spirit.
softawre 9y ago
Downvoters care to explain? We always say diversity is good, but when somebody provides an example of why it is good, they get downvoted?
- MrBuddyCasino 9y ago
  There are always downvotes with these topics. Either you are perceived as a patriarch or an SJW. I suppose thats mostly because different people have made different experiences and are biased in one or the other direction. I personally don't care - I think James Damore made some valid points, and I also like and value my female colleagues. To me thats not a contradiction.
- whataretensors 9y ago
  I didn't downvote, but maybe because it was a gender-based classification of behavior backed up by two opinion pieces?

dazc 9y ago

Funnily enough, the couple of times I've done co-working it was the women who were the problem. One was very aggressive, always having loud arguments on the phone and slamming doors as she left the building. Another one seemed to think that because she and her partner were renting 2 desks this made her twice as a important as anyone else? She was playing music one day so I asked her to turn it down. She never spoke to me again and made me feel very uncomfortable whenever our paths crossed. Of course this isn't representative of all women but, just saying, being female isn't a guarantee of good behaviour.

MrBuddyCasino 9y ago
Didn't want to imply that women are better people - I had a female sales rep in the office for some time that talked on the phone a lot and did so very loudly with complete disregard for everyone else, I wanted to throw her out the window. Never had bad experiences with female software devs though.