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Base price for the Tesla in Germany seems to be about €69k and the base price for a BMW 7 series about €88k, the 5er Series about €48k (prices according to goog

Base price for the Tesla in Germany seems to be about €69k and the base price for a BMW 7 series about €88k, the 5er Series about €48k (prices according to google) So the Tesla sits pretty right in the middle of the two. One could argue that it doesn’t seem fair to compare the sales figure of a €70k car against those of a € 90k car.

adventured 9y ago
It's not fair to compare a €48k car to a €69k car either then. That's a larger percentage price gap than between €69k and €90k.
- Xylakant 9y ago
  I didn’t pretend it would be fair. Though in practice, with subsidies etc, the price of a Tesla is much closer to the BMW 5 than it is to the 7 series, especially in the markets where Tesla has it highest sales. Just as a comparison: In Januar 2018, Tesla had 63 newly registered cars in Germany (all models) (1). The BMW 7 series alone had 364. (2) BMW all models 20 759 (1) (1) https://www.kba.de/SharedDocs/Publikationen/DE/Statistik/Fahrzeuge/FZ/2018%20monatlich/FZ8/fz8_201801_pdf.pdf?__blob=publicationFile&v=5 https://www.kba.de/SharedDocs/Publikationen/DE/Statistik/Fah... (2) https://www.kba.de/DE/Statistik/Fahrzeuge/Neuzulassungen/MonatlicheNeuzulassungen/2018/201801_GV1monatlich/201801_n_top3.html https://www.kba.de/DE/Statistik/Fahrzeuge/Neuzulassungen/Mon...
thesimon 9y ago
>Base price for the Tesla in Germany seems to be about €69k I think it's quite hard to consider 69k€ to be the base price. They placed it at €69k to get subsidies for electric cars, which are only granted up to a sales price of €70k. If you want to customize anything (different color, different interior), you have to get the "Comfort package" @ €13k. You also have to get the "comfort package" if you want basic stuff like navigation or radio. €82k seems to be the fairer price point, especially considering this was the regular base model price until the government started providing the subsidies :)

adventured 9y ago

It's not fair to compare a €48k car to a €69k car either then. That's a larger percentage price gap than between €69k and €90k.

Xylakant 9y ago
I didn’t pretend it would be fair. Though in practice, with subsidies etc, the price of a Tesla is much closer to the BMW 5 than it is to the 7 series, especially in the markets where Tesla has it highest sales. Just as a comparison: In Januar 2018, Tesla had 63 newly registered cars in Germany (all models) (1). The BMW 7 series alone had 364. (2) BMW all models 20 759 (1) (1) https://www.kba.de/SharedDocs/Publikationen/DE/Statistik/Fahrzeuge/FZ/2018%20monatlich/FZ8/fz8_201801_pdf.pdf?__blob=publicationFile&v=5 https://www.kba.de/SharedDocs/Publikationen/DE/Statistik/Fah... (2) https://www.kba.de/DE/Statistik/Fahrzeuge/Neuzulassungen/MonatlicheNeuzulassungen/2018/201801_GV1monatlich/201801_n_top3.html https://www.kba.de/DE/Statistik/Fahrzeuge/Neuzulassungen/Mon...

thesimon 9y ago

>Base price for the Tesla in Germany seems to be about €69k I think it's quite hard to consider 69k€ to be the base price. They placed it at €69k to get subsidies for electric cars, which are only granted up to a sales price of €70k. If you want to customize anything (different color, different interior), you have to get the "Comfort package" @ €13k. You also have to get the "comfort package" if you want basic stuff like navigation or radio. €82k seems to be the fairer price point, especially considering this was the regular base model price until the government started providing the subsidies :)