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We know that because China has banned western tech companies in the past when they don’t play ball. https://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/042915/why-

We know that because China has banned western tech companies in the past when they don’t play ball. https://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/042915/why-facebook-banned-china.asp https://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/042915/why-f... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_China https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_China Also twitter and Snapchat.

dwringer 9y ago
As I understand it, Google actually had been cooperating with China's censorship requests, but didn't like it, and Google made the decision themselves[1] to relocate offices [ED: web search was moved but Google maintains offices in mainland China] to Hong Kong rather than continue self-censorship. [1] https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2010/mar/23/google-china-censorship-hong-kong https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2010/mar/23/google-ch...
- seanmcdirmid 9y ago
  Google didn't "relocate" to Hong Kong, their offices in Wudaokou kept running, they just shutdown their Mainland-based webserver.
  - mattnewton 9y ago
    And redirected it to Hong Kong, which was then blocked, because they weren’t playing ball anymore.
    - seanmcdirmid 9y ago
      Yes, but google still has other business in china (android, selling ads to Chinese customers). They sacrificed their web search business, but not everything else.
      - dwringer 9y ago
        I apologize for my misleading statements. From my amateur reading of the coverage at the time, I had no idea of this; I appreciate the additional information.
      - sidibe 9y ago
        I'm pretty sure nothing Google-related works in China. Youtube/search/gmail etc. are all blocked. They have Android phones but no Google services on them. They do sell ads there but to companies targeting Chinese people outside of China.
        seanmcdirmid 9y ago
        They just recently opened a new office in Shenzhen, so something is going on, but I mostly agree.
        yorwba 9y ago
        There are a few services that work. Google Translate is available, and you can connect to gmail using an email client instead of the website.
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mr_spothawk 9y ago
China banned their citizens from accessing a network. That's very different than banning a famous, physical product.

dwringer 9y ago

As I understand it, Google actually had been cooperating with China's censorship requests, but didn't like it, and Google made the decision themselves[1] to relocate offices [ED: web search was moved but Google maintains offices in mainland China] to Hong Kong rather than continue self-censorship. [1] https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2010/mar/23/google-china-censorship-hong-kong https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2010/mar/23/google-ch...

seanmcdirmid 9y ago
Google didn't "relocate" to Hong Kong, their offices in Wudaokou kept running, they just shutdown their Mainland-based webserver.
- mattnewton 9y ago
  And redirected it to Hong Kong, which was then blocked, because they weren’t playing ball anymore.
  - seanmcdirmid 9y ago
    Yes, but google still has other business in china (android, selling ads to Chinese customers). They sacrificed their web search business, but not everything else.
    - dwringer 9y ago
      I apologize for my misleading statements. From my amateur reading of the coverage at the time, I had no idea of this; I appreciate the additional information.
    - sidibe 9y ago
      I'm pretty sure nothing Google-related works in China. Youtube/search/gmail etc. are all blocked. They have Android phones but no Google services on them. They do sell ads there but to companies targeting Chinese people outside of China.
      - seanmcdirmid 9y ago
        They just recently opened a new office in Shenzhen, so something is going on, but I mostly agree.
      - yorwba 9y ago
        There are a few services that work. Google Translate is available, and you can connect to gmail using an email client instead of the website.
- deleted 9y ago
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mr_spothawk 9y ago

China banned their citizens from accessing a network. That's very different than banning a famous, physical product.