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I never can tell if there really is an influx of insane, insufferable far left crazies, or if people who insist on remaining racist and keeping gays in the clos

I never can tell if there really is an influx of insane, insufferable far left crazies, or if people who insist on remaining racist and keeping gays in the closet are mad that nobody is having that anymore. That's because it's entirely a matter of individual perspective and experience. Everyone takes their own tiny viewport onto a region of millions of diverse people and attempts to claim "oh yeah SF/bay area is like this..." "Oh no I had a different experience so you see it's like this..."

sho 9y ago
There may be millions of diverse people and opinions but there is definitely a dominant ideology, it is definitely far-left, and it suppresses all other political viewpoints. This is absolutely blindingly self-evident in SF and if you disagree I wonder if you have actually been there.
- adventured 9y ago
  It's also entirely unnecessary to guess at this. We have voting records and financial contributions to campaigns. Both tell the same exact story. San Francisco is as far left as cities get in the US. The mistake being made by the top level parent, is thinking that there was ever actually a wide-spread libertarian burst. There was not. That was nothing more than a media meme for a few minutes, mostly thanks to Andreessen, Thiel and a few others. SF overall has been extreme left for the last 40 years plus. Marc Andreessen for one, has entirely disappeared from the public discussion politically. He's a particularly openly avowed libertarian type in terms of beliefs. There's a reason he shut down like he did, it's the same reason Thiel is being evicted from the inner circles of tech. There is no room for mistakes in the current police state of speech that exists in SV. One mistake, stepping out of line with dogma, and you're done. Andreessen wants to stay in Silicon Valley and wants to maintain his VC firm at the top tier, so he shut his mouth to put it simply. Thiel is unwilling to go along with the political & speech requirements of continuing to exist in SV.
- dragonwriter 9y ago
  It's relatively left but not far-left, and it hasn't really moved much in decades, though the rapid movement of the right end of the Overton Window over the past couple decades (and particularly the past few years) may make it seemed to have moved left to those whose perceptions are driven by distance from the center of their own identity group, and identify with a right-leaning (either conservative or right-libertarian) faction.
- s73v3r_ 9y ago
  Sure, but I could say the same with much of the South and conservatism.
- on_and_off 9y ago
  Judging by the hordes of homeless people I seriously doubt that SF has a far left ideology
hindsightbias 9y ago
Crazy liberal SF/Bay, home of Feinstein - the Iraq War, AUMF, Libya War, Patriot Act and FISA Reauthorization supporter. In TX, we'd call these people Republicans.

sho 9y ago

There may be millions of diverse people and opinions but there is definitely a dominant ideology, it is definitely far-left, and it suppresses all other political viewpoints. This is absolutely blindingly self-evident in SF and if you disagree I wonder if you have actually been there.

adventured 9y ago
It's also entirely unnecessary to guess at this. We have voting records and financial contributions to campaigns. Both tell the same exact story. San Francisco is as far left as cities get in the US. The mistake being made by the top level parent, is thinking that there was ever actually a wide-spread libertarian burst. There was not. That was nothing more than a media meme for a few minutes, mostly thanks to Andreessen, Thiel and a few others. SF overall has been extreme left for the last 40 years plus. Marc Andreessen for one, has entirely disappeared from the public discussion politically. He's a particularly openly avowed libertarian type in terms of beliefs. There's a reason he shut down like he did, it's the same reason Thiel is being evicted from the inner circles of tech. There is no room for mistakes in the current police state of speech that exists in SV. One mistake, stepping out of line with dogma, and you're done. Andreessen wants to stay in Silicon Valley and wants to maintain his VC firm at the top tier, so he shut his mouth to put it simply. Thiel is unwilling to go along with the political & speech requirements of continuing to exist in SV.
dragonwriter 9y ago
It's relatively left but not far-left, and it hasn't really moved much in decades, though the rapid movement of the right end of the Overton Window over the past couple decades (and particularly the past few years) may make it seemed to have moved left to those whose perceptions are driven by distance from the center of their own identity group, and identify with a right-leaning (either conservative or right-libertarian) faction.
s73v3r_ 9y ago
Sure, but I could say the same with much of the South and conservatism.
on_and_off 9y ago
Judging by the hordes of homeless people I seriously doubt that SF has a far left ideology

hindsightbias 9y ago

Crazy liberal SF/Bay, home of Feinstein - the Iraq War, AUMF, Libya War, Patriot Act and FISA Reauthorization supporter. In TX, we'd call these people Republicans.