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Literally nobody who's in the target audience for the iMac Pro (photographers, video editors, professional musicians, etc.) would ever consider using a hackinto

Literally nobody who's in the target audience for the iMac Pro (photographers, video editors, professional musicians, etc.) would ever consider using a hackintosh. If your paycheck depends on your tech, you want stability and supportability.

tmikaeld 9y ago
I've successfully run a Hackintosh for the past 7 years and have completed a lot of Adobe After Effect renders without any crashes or issues. Choose what you want, I know what i want.
- gtm1260 9y ago
  Its one thing when you are using Adobe After Effects but if you are developing anything, having a stable environment is crucial.
  - tmikaeld 9y ago
    I've never had any crashes on this machine (2 years) and only reboot when there's a MacOS update to install.
    - clay_the_ripper 9y ago
      Out of curiosity, how much extra time would you say it would take someone who knows nothing about hackintoshes to buy one and use it as a daily driver? Is is possible to buy one that works out of the box?
      - gervase 9y ago
        It is not possible to buy one "out of the box" as far as I know. I would budget at least 2 hours of overhead to learn the basics (it's a lot easier nowadays then it used to be). If every part you pick is 100% compatible, you'll have a much better time; getting unsupported parts working is a pretty big headache.
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clay_the_ripper 9y ago
Agreed. As a technically savvy person who knows nothing about hackintoshes the opportunity cost of researching, learning, buying, setting up, and dealing with upgrades far outweighs the potential savings of, what? Maybe 1-2k? In terms of professional work, 1-2k is nothing for peace of mind and ease of use.
- tmikaeld 9y ago
  I'd not recommend it if you don't have patience and time to spend. I didn't build mine to save money, I did it because it's fun to learn and test. I tried the beta of many Windows even the Georgia and longhorn ones. It was a lot more frustrating than this
photoGrant 9y ago
Yeah, I'm exactly the target audience and just here to prove one anecdotal piece of evidence -- we use hackintoshes. Not all of us, but we're here.
- michaelcampbell 9y ago
  That's impossible. He clearly stated "Literally no one".
  - tzs 9y ago
    "Literally" formally means exactly, but informally it can be used as a form of emphasis or to mean "figuratively". Many people think that the informal use is a recent development, and perhaps a sign that the speaker has a poor grasp of English. They are incorrect on both counts. Examples of older use by people who undoubtedly had excellent grasps of English are found in the writings of F. Scott Fitzgerald, James Joyce, Charlotte Bronte, Charles Dickens, and others going at least as far back as 1769. More on this in this article from Merriam-Webster on the angry comments directed at them by readers who think MW is corrupting the language [1]. They note that most other major dictionaries agree (in a middle finger to the critics, they say "Literally ever modern dictionary includes this definition"). They also note it has been in MW since 1909...I think they are trying to imply that the people who just noticed it there and were writing those angry comments are slow. Sadly, this means people like you and me, who would prefer it to just have the formal meaning should really give up correcting or making fun of the informal usage, lest we literally look like idiots. [1] https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/misuse-of-literally https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/misuse-of-lite...
Chyzwar 9y ago
Right, That why these people will buy Windows PC with better hardware. Spec is nothing impressive you can get cheaper EPYC workstation with almost twice as much power. This iMac Pro is not enough pro for pro-people and too expensive for amateurs.
- coldtea 9y ago
  I'm not sure who your "pro-people" are, but for tons of actual professionals (working in million dollar projects) this iMac Pro has more than enough specs for the rest 5+ years.
  - hedora 9y ago
    I think the point is that you can spend 10-30% as much for a faster windows/linux box, or for a slower mac that covers 99.9% of the workloads this thing does.

tmikaeld 9y ago

I've successfully run a Hackintosh for the past 7 years and have completed a lot of Adobe After Effect renders without any crashes or issues. Choose what you want, I know what i want.

gtm1260 9y ago
Its one thing when you are using Adobe After Effects but if you are developing anything, having a stable environment is crucial.
- tmikaeld 9y ago
  I've never had any crashes on this machine (2 years) and only reboot when there's a MacOS update to install.
  - clay_the_ripper 9y ago
    Out of curiosity, how much extra time would you say it would take someone who knows nothing about hackintoshes to buy one and use it as a daily driver? Is is possible to buy one that works out of the box?
    - gervase 9y ago
      It is not possible to buy one "out of the box" as far as I know. I would budget at least 2 hours of overhead to learn the basics (it's a lot easier nowadays then it used to be). If every part you pick is 100% compatible, you'll have a much better time; getting unsupported parts working is a pretty big headache.
    - deleted 9y ago
      [deleted]

clay_the_ripper 9y ago

Agreed. As a technically savvy person who knows nothing about hackintoshes the opportunity cost of researching, learning, buying, setting up, and dealing with upgrades far outweighs the potential savings of, what? Maybe 1-2k? In terms of professional work, 1-2k is nothing for peace of mind and ease of use.

tmikaeld 9y ago
I'd not recommend it if you don't have patience and time to spend. I didn't build mine to save money, I did it because it's fun to learn and test. I tried the beta of many Windows even the Georgia and longhorn ones. It was a lot more frustrating than this

photoGrant 9y ago

Yeah, I'm exactly the target audience and just here to prove one anecdotal piece of evidence -- we use hackintoshes. Not all of us, but we're here.

michaelcampbell 9y ago
That's impossible. He clearly stated "Literally no one".
- tzs 9y ago
  "Literally" formally means exactly, but informally it can be used as a form of emphasis or to mean "figuratively". Many people think that the informal use is a recent development, and perhaps a sign that the speaker has a poor grasp of English. They are incorrect on both counts. Examples of older use by people who undoubtedly had excellent grasps of English are found in the writings of F. Scott Fitzgerald, James Joyce, Charlotte Bronte, Charles Dickens, and others going at least as far back as 1769. More on this in this article from Merriam-Webster on the angry comments directed at them by readers who think MW is corrupting the language [1]. They note that most other major dictionaries agree (in a middle finger to the critics, they say "Literally ever modern dictionary includes this definition"). They also note it has been in MW since 1909...I think they are trying to imply that the people who just noticed it there and were writing those angry comments are slow. Sadly, this means people like you and me, who would prefer it to just have the formal meaning should really give up correcting or making fun of the informal usage, lest we literally look like idiots. [1] https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/misuse-of-literally https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/misuse-of-lite...

Chyzwar 9y ago

Right, That why these people will buy Windows PC with better hardware. Spec is nothing impressive you can get cheaper EPYC workstation with almost twice as much power. This iMac Pro is not enough pro for pro-people and too expensive for amateurs.

coldtea 9y ago
I'm not sure who your "pro-people" are, but for tons of actual professionals (working in million dollar projects) this iMac Pro has more than enough specs for the rest 5+ years.
- hedora 9y ago
  I think the point is that you can spend 10-30% as much for a faster windows/linux box, or for a slower mac that covers 99.9% of the workloads this thing does.