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This may be true for a lot of situations, however there could be all kinds of factors that are not considered, so I would caution you not to be too absolutist a

This may be true for a lot of situations, however there could be all kinds of factors that are not considered, so I would caution you not to be too absolutist about this thinking. I for one would very much like to exercise much more, and had in the past invested a fair amount of money and time into it. I enjoyed it immensely most of the time, even without the other benefits mentioned in the article. However I rarely exercise now, and since I lost health insurance some years ago I feel the financial risk too great. Even basic yoga / pushups could lead to expensive treatment for anti-hemophilia factor treatment if it was needed. I see many other people have more serious issues with mental and emotional health which take priority over exercise and growth too. It's easy to armchair quarterback and say "oh that persons is lazy watching tv, drinking or smoking" for example, and not realize that they are actually suffering greatly and are prioritizing working, paying bills, and getting a small amount of comfort in doing one thing that another may think is just lazy, is actually a sad form of self medication for issues that perhaps could be treated better if they had access to better care. Of course this is not an excuse for all who don't, just another way of seeing some things that I have learned over the years, not everything is always the way it seems to us and others do not always have the same things stopping them as we do.

ACow_Adonis 9y ago
Wait wait wait... You stopped exercising because you lost health insurance and you feel the financial risk is too great? I'm assuming you're not accounting for the health effects and treatments you're going to need because you stopped exercising?
- stevenicr 9y ago
  @ACow - I'm assuming you don't know what it costs to treat a bruise / internal bleed when you have hemophilia factor 8 deficiency with no health insurance. believe me, I want to exercise like I used to. There were times in an Aikido dojo where the exercise was so good that I felt better than after sex. Right now I stand consciously for times, and I got on walks on occasion. However the past 30 days I have had immense pain from my lower back to my left knee, which at this point I am pretty sure is an untreated bleeding in my left gluteous, which makes sitting in most positions difficult. I do some slow tai chi on occasion, but have to be careful not to over extend and cause injury. This is great, but it certainly doesn't burn the calories and get blood flowing like other things I could be doing, at least not the way I do the tai chi steps at home. I know there are more vigorous ways to engage in it, it's me that is limiting the type, not the available / advanced tai chi options. So yes, I stopped most vigorous exercises soon after I lost health insurance, the financial risk is indeed too great. "not accounting for the health effects and treatments you're going to need because you stopped exercising?" - It would be an interesting comparison. Unfortunately I can not afford either, so I guess it's a matter of try to play safer for now so I can prolong the time between now and then.
nradov 9y ago
Regular exercise improves mental and emotional health for the vast majority of people.
- stevenicr 9y ago
  @nradov - yes you are right! I promote knowledge of this to people when I can. Just doing some now again can have a similar effect as prozac and similar meds as far as percentage of people helped from what I understand. I think it helps for many different reasons too, some physical, some just seeing the world differently. My point with statement above was just not to be a blanket absolutist. There was a time in my life when I looked at my obese friends and wondered why they did not get that X calories - X movement = whatever. I learned later in life that sometimes it's not so simple, whether it's genes, or types of food that are different, the way they were raised, emotional issues that were not treated, medications for one thing that caused another... there are so many things I do not know just by looking at someone. The same with them looking at me.
  - jackvalentine 9y ago
    As cruel as it might seem, you need to prioritize yourself when looking for a relationship and if 'exercises' is a useful heuristic to you when choosing who to date so be it - the other person's concerns, excuses and reasons are not your problem.
JudasGoat 9y ago
I spent a little over 2 years incarcerated. Inside I learned the ultimate truth of exercise. In my institution there were no weights or exercise machines. Inmates would fill trash bags with water and use for weights. The point being, money should not be an excuse for lack of exercise. People that tried were able to stay in really good shape.
- sizzle 9y ago
  So it's a matter of will power and determination?

ACow_Adonis 9y ago

Wait wait wait... You stopped exercising because you lost health insurance and you feel the financial risk is too great? I'm assuming you're not accounting for the health effects and treatments you're going to need because you stopped exercising?

stevenicr 9y ago
@ACow - I'm assuming you don't know what it costs to treat a bruise / internal bleed when you have hemophilia factor 8 deficiency with no health insurance. believe me, I want to exercise like I used to. There were times in an Aikido dojo where the exercise was so good that I felt better than after sex. Right now I stand consciously for times, and I got on walks on occasion. However the past 30 days I have had immense pain from my lower back to my left knee, which at this point I am pretty sure is an untreated bleeding in my left gluteous, which makes sitting in most positions difficult. I do some slow tai chi on occasion, but have to be careful not to over extend and cause injury. This is great, but it certainly doesn't burn the calories and get blood flowing like other things I could be doing, at least not the way I do the tai chi steps at home. I know there are more vigorous ways to engage in it, it's me that is limiting the type, not the available / advanced tai chi options. So yes, I stopped most vigorous exercises soon after I lost health insurance, the financial risk is indeed too great. "not accounting for the health effects and treatments you're going to need because you stopped exercising?" - It would be an interesting comparison. Unfortunately I can not afford either, so I guess it's a matter of try to play safer for now so I can prolong the time between now and then.

nradov 9y ago

Regular exercise improves mental and emotional health for the vast majority of people.

stevenicr 9y ago
@nradov - yes you are right! I promote knowledge of this to people when I can. Just doing some now again can have a similar effect as prozac and similar meds as far as percentage of people helped from what I understand. I think it helps for many different reasons too, some physical, some just seeing the world differently. My point with statement above was just not to be a blanket absolutist. There was a time in my life when I looked at my obese friends and wondered why they did not get that X calories - X movement = whatever. I learned later in life that sometimes it's not so simple, whether it's genes, or types of food that are different, the way they were raised, emotional issues that were not treated, medications for one thing that caused another... there are so many things I do not know just by looking at someone. The same with them looking at me.
- jackvalentine 9y ago
  As cruel as it might seem, you need to prioritize yourself when looking for a relationship and if 'exercises' is a useful heuristic to you when choosing who to date so be it - the other person's concerns, excuses and reasons are not your problem.

JudasGoat 9y ago

I spent a little over 2 years incarcerated. Inside I learned the ultimate truth of exercise. In my institution there were no weights or exercise machines. Inmates would fill trash bags with water and use for weights. The point being, money should not be an excuse for lack of exercise. People that tried were able to stay in really good shape.

sizzle 9y ago
So it's a matter of will power and determination?