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Less inclined (which was what he said) can be tested factually are you saying that it's ok to be fired to state something factually correct?
by ThomPete 9y ago
Less inclined (which was what he said) can be tested factually are you saying that it's ok to be fired to state something factually correct?
- kylemurph 9y agoIf it makes your coworkers uncomfortable, yes.
- brian-armstrong 9y agoSome of the bits in his memo were pseudoscientific bunk, no better than phrenology. Making a lot of noise about 'facts' doesn't help here, in fact it does the opposite. So it seems your stand here is irrelevant to the discussion at hand.
- ThomPete 9y agoCan you give an example? Whether you find my stand irrelevant or not just because you don't agree with it, is telling and symptomatic for this discussion. Why isn't my stand relevant, what is it you know for a fact that is pseudoscientific and even if it was the case, are you going to fire people for believing in God and being against gay marriage because it's anti-scientific. Sounds like an anti-ellectual position to me.
- stcredzero 9y agoSome of the bits in his memo were pseudoscientific bunk, no better than phrenology. One of the cited studies from the Damore memo was done across 55 countries, and effectively has a P value which is eyebrow-raisingly high. (They used another stats test.) It's definitely an important result, and is acknowledged as such by a big swathe of Psychology academia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Five_personality_traits#Gender_differences https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Five_personality_traits#Ge...
- joshuamorton 9y agoSure, but just because I cite a study doesn't mean that the conclusions I make are valid. You seem to be saying that because Damore has citations in his memo it is ironclad (or perhaps you think that people who disagree with it disagree with every word of it). Neither of those things are the case. There are subsections of the memo that are both objectionable and unscientific. That he has some things that are science-y does not make the entire document wholly unobjectionable.
- walshemj 9y agoTotal breakdown of trust is a valid reason to fire someone.
- ThomPete 9y agoYou can fire people for more or less anything we are talking about whether its fair. Not sure how you get to total breakdown of trust.
- walshemj 9y agosorry I should have said it is a fair reason to dismiss.
- ThomPete 9y agoFirst, you have to establish that it was a total breakdown which I think you will have a hard time establishing in any meaningful way. But by all means. Let's hear the argument.
- walshemj 9y agoThe Boss says I can not trust this person again nor can their coworkers for x y z reasons (And I Am afraid Mr Danmore has done this) and the employee is toast. This is a civil matter so its on the balance of probabilities this isn't a criminal court.
- ThomPete 9y agoThe boss just fired that person for just writing feedback which he was encouraged to do by HR. How is that better?