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Yeah if anything it's people moving away from IDEs that's making life much more difficult. The complicated part of an install is rarely ever just downloading so

Yeah if anything it's people moving away from IDEs that's making life much more difficult. The complicated part of an install is rarely ever just downloading some software, clicking the executable and then 'next' a few times. The hard part is docker throwing out nonsensical error messages into your console, offering 3 equally illegible possible solutions, which after 2 hours of googling and attempts turn out to be wrong, because all you needed was a reboot to get to the next error (which ends up being caused because of one of the 3 attempts to fix the earlier problem). Yeah sure, with an IDE you might not grasp what really happened, but do you really with the 15 step install instructions? Both GUIs and CLIs only ever show the information that the programmer decided to output anyway, and GUIs are actually much better at showing legible output due to all the extra space, formatting options, etc. So what is it that people think makes a CLI somehow grasp what's happening better? The fact you just copy pasted some command with 3 flags?

eadmund 9y ago
> The hard part is docker throwing out nonsensical error messages into your console, offering 3 equally illegible possible solutions, which after 2 hours of googling and attempts turn out to be wrong, because all you needed was a reboot to get to the next error (which ends up being caused because of one of the 3 attempts to fix the earlier problem). Docker is a CLI program written by GUI programmers — it's a whole new level of terrible. It's certainly not a stain upon the CLI escutcheon.
imtringued 9y ago
>The hard part is docker throwing out nonsensical error messages into your console, offering 3 equally illegible possible solutions, which after 2 hours of googling and attempts turn out to be wrong, because all you needed was a reboot to get to the next error (which ends up being caused because of one of the 3 attempts to fix the earlier problem). Are you talking about kernel updates breaking docker until reboot? Yes that's annoying but you have to reboot anyway.

eadmund 9y ago

> The hard part is docker throwing out nonsensical error messages into your console, offering 3 equally illegible possible solutions, which after 2 hours of googling and attempts turn out to be wrong, because all you needed was a reboot to get to the next error (which ends up being caused because of one of the 3 attempts to fix the earlier problem). Docker is a CLI program written by GUI programmers — it's a whole new level of terrible. It's certainly not a stain upon the CLI escutcheon.

imtringued 9y ago

>The hard part is docker throwing out nonsensical error messages into your console, offering 3 equally illegible possible solutions, which after 2 hours of googling and attempts turn out to be wrong, because all you needed was a reboot to get to the next error (which ends up being caused because of one of the 3 attempts to fix the earlier problem). Are you talking about kernel updates breaking docker until reboot? Yes that's annoying but you have to reboot anyway.