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Exercise is important, but your comment is so full of smug "look why can't everyone be as awesome as me" that it really turned me off to any point you were tryi

by mevile 9y ago

Exercise is important, but your comment is so full of smug "look why can't everyone be as awesome as me" that it really turned me off to any point you were trying to make. Not everyone is rich enough to have the time to exercise. Some people have to work two jobs just to pay rent. Some people have children that take up all of their time, we're not all brought up in nurturing wealthy homes with supportive parents making sure we learn all the things we should. People can't find a moment to have a minute of rest in their lives, can't even afford healthy food and here you are being condescending about what is wrong with all these other people you don't know a thing about.

always_good 9y ago
I'm not sure which part of my comment you think you're responding to. Seems like a generic rant against someone who might have said "anyone who doesn't exercise is a failure."
- zaptheimpaler 9y ago
  >Yet some of those people reject the idea that it's something they should do at all. They just don't like it the same way a kid doesn't like vegetables How about this part, where you compare anyone who doesn't exercise to a spoiled child?
calvano915 9y ago
Number one excuse for not doing exercise/physical activity is lack of time. Work jobs that include PA. Do activities with the kids that involve PA. Find 10-20 mins a few times a week for vigorous. Not that hard, no excuse, and their comment was not smug whatsoever. Part of caring for a family is caring for yourself.
- mevile 9y ago
  Many people take the jobs they're lucky to find. They're lucky they have a job at all, or two if that's what they need. You should go take a walk down a not so nice street and let all the people you see there know how much more they should be exercising.
  - calvano915 9y ago
    The time you're spending on this thread could have been spent going for a jog, or searching for a more preferable job. Exercise is free in a vast amount of modes. Time may be scarce, but some effort can allow for the minimal time to maintain or improve health. No excuses. I find some of what you say agreeable but the victimization of yourself or those you are speaking about is intolerable for this topic.
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  - craftyguy 9y ago
    > You should go take a walk down Hey, then you'd be exercising! Look at you go! It's actually not that difficult to find ways to move your body. Go for walks (to work, school, store, or just orbit your neighborhood). If you have kids, drag them out too. Childhood obesity is a problem now, don't let your mistake rub off on your kids!
mrob 9y ago
>Not everyone is rich enough to have the time to exercise. 5 minutes is sufficient if you have good pain tolerance, and pain tolerance can be trained. There's a great deal of evidence that high-intensity interval training is effective for improving cardiovascular fitness. Diet is admittedly more difficult, but even if you can't eat healthy food you can still benefit from exercise. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-intensity_interval_training https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-intensity_interval_traini...
- discoursism 9y ago
  How many miles should I run per week? https://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/11/27/ask-well-how-many-miles-a-week-should-i-run/ https://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/11/27/ask-well-how-many-... "Surprisingly few, it seems. According to a new review of studies related to running and health, jogging for as few as five or six miles per week could substantially improve someone’s health." That's about an hour of running for most able bodied adults who have been making it a habit for three or four months. If you can't budget an hour a week for exercise, you're booking yourself too tight.
ericmcer 9y ago
Failing to exercise is an area where I think the victim/excuse mentality kinda falls to pieces. Unless you are just entirely ignorant that it's a concern, it is something that anyone can do. Do some yoga/pushups/sit-ups every morning (5-10mins) and then go for a short walk on your lunch-break. There is no way someone cannot do that unless they just 'don't want to'. It is free, takes almost no time, and can be as simple as walking around for 15 minutes. I don't think it is smug to challenge people to take the smallest, tiniest, bare minimum amount of personal responsibility.
- ams6110 9y ago
  Personal responsibility for what? One's own choices? I choose not to exercise. I've tried it plenty of times at the nagging of busybodies like you. I don't like it, and I don't want to do it. Why do YOU care about MY choice in this matter?
  - cheald 9y ago
    You're upset at a straw man. The OP was condemning the "I would exercise, but I just can't because XYZ" attitude, not "I choose not to". There are precious few people who can't actually carve out time to exercise. Not wanting to is a different matter - but not wanting to is a choice you make, rather than a circumstance you're forced into.
- makecheck 9y ago
  There’s no time in the morning for people with terrible commutes and multiple jobs, etc. Some jobs have lunch breaks that are really short, especially if you have to drive somewhere to find food or wait in line.
  - mc32 9y ago
    While I ack not everyone can home cook, cooking for lunch is one way to avoid wasting your lunch time waiting in line.
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eric_b 9y ago
I work two jobs. I work 60 hours a week. I still find time to go to the gym 6 hours a week and walk my dog 6 hours a week. You know how I do it? I don't binge watch Netflix. In fact I don't watch any TV at all. I make exercise a priority. I'm not sure there is anyone who "can't find a moment to have a minute of rest in their lives". The busiest people I know are also some of the healthiest. Not having time is a poor excuse at best. The vast majority of those in poverty who "can't afford healthy food" do not work, or do not work more than 20-30 hours a week. They have ample time to exercise. (Body weight exercise is free, I might add - as is walking.)
adrr 9y ago
Have any studies backup any of your claims that people need to be rich to have time to exercise? Here's a study about TV consumption based on income level. https://www.statista.com/statistics/191558/average-daily-time-spent-on-watching-television-in-the-us-by-income/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/191558/average-daily-tim... As for commute time. More the you make the longer your commute. http://traveltrends.transportation.org/Documents/CA11-4.pdf http://traveltrends.transportation.org/Documents/CA11-4.pdf I bet if you looked for studies on income level and hours worked a week its correlated. Ask a CEO or senior executive how many hours they work a week i bet its 80+. As for healthy food. Its really easy to eat healthy without spending a ton. Chicken breast is frequently $4 to $5 a pound which is enough to feed two meals. Vegetables are really cheap. How much is a head of lettuce? $1.50 to $2.00? Lentils and whole grains don't cost much. And easiest way to eat healthy, limit your consumption which is cheaper than over consumption.
jdietrich 9y ago
>Not everyone is rich enough to have the time to exercise For full-time wage earners, there's actually a slightly negative correlation between wages and leisure time - people who earn more money have less free time. There has been a major long-term trend towards greater leisure time across all socioeconomic groups. Unemployed and retired people are not significantly more likely to exercise than working people, despite their obviously greater amount of leisure time. https://www.bls.gov/news.release/atus.nr0.htm https://www.bls.gov/news.release/atus.nr0.htm >can't even afford healthy food The richest American households only eat 0.6 more servings of fruit and vegetables per day than the poorest. The overall average intake was 4.76 servings, so this difference in intake is clinically insignificant. Education level was more strongly correlated with fruit and vegetable intake than income, but differences within socioeconomic groups are far more significant than differences between them. https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/87/6/1883/4754427 https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/87/6/1883/4754427 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0140673617322535 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S014067361... The shortcomings of American diets and lifestyles are a hell of a lot more complex than just a lack of time and money.
howlgram 9y ago
Your comment reads like a huge cope to yourself, case in point, the original comment was about being interested in exercise at all, not about exercising like an athlete.
dominotw 9y ago
> Not everyone is rich enough to have the time to exercise. He was specifically talking about a subset of people he/she is dating. You are talking about "everyone".
krautt 9y ago
sad, sad story. do you work in the soap opera industry? your comment inspired me to do 100 burpees. Having done them, i negated your weak rationalization.
dang 9y ago
You have a good point, but you also crossed into personal attack, and broke the site guideline which asks "please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize." This leads to crummy threads, so would you please not do that here? Regardless of how smug another commenter may be, or seem. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

by mevile 9y ago

always_good 9y ago

I'm not sure which part of my comment you think you're responding to. Seems like a generic rant against someone who might have said "anyone who doesn't exercise is a failure."

zaptheimpaler 9y ago
>Yet some of those people reject the idea that it's something they should do at all. They just don't like it the same way a kid doesn't like vegetables How about this part, where you compare anyone who doesn't exercise to a spoiled child?

calvano915 9y ago

Number one excuse for not doing exercise/physical activity is lack of time. Work jobs that include PA. Do activities with the kids that involve PA. Find 10-20 mins a few times a week for vigorous. Not that hard, no excuse, and their comment was not smug whatsoever. Part of caring for a family is caring for yourself.

mevile 9y ago
Many people take the jobs they're lucky to find. They're lucky they have a job at all, or two if that's what they need. You should go take a walk down a not so nice street and let all the people you see there know how much more they should be exercising.
- calvano915 9y ago
  The time you're spending on this thread could have been spent going for a jog, or searching for a more preferable job. Exercise is free in a vast amount of modes. Time may be scarce, but some effort can allow for the minimal time to maintain or improve health. No excuses. I find some of what you say agreeable but the victimization of yourself or those you are speaking about is intolerable for this topic.
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- craftyguy 9y ago
  > You should go take a walk down Hey, then you'd be exercising! Look at you go! It's actually not that difficult to find ways to move your body. Go for walks (to work, school, store, or just orbit your neighborhood). If you have kids, drag them out too. Childhood obesity is a problem now, don't let your mistake rub off on your kids!

mrob 9y ago

>Not everyone is rich enough to have the time to exercise. 5 minutes is sufficient if you have good pain tolerance, and pain tolerance can be trained. There's a great deal of evidence that high-intensity interval training is effective for improving cardiovascular fitness. Diet is admittedly more difficult, but even if you can't eat healthy food you can still benefit from exercise. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-intensity_interval_training https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-intensity_interval_traini...

discoursism 9y ago
How many miles should I run per week? https://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/11/27/ask-well-how-many-miles-a-week-should-i-run/ https://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/11/27/ask-well-how-many-... "Surprisingly few, it seems. According to a new review of studies related to running and health, jogging for as few as five or six miles per week could substantially improve someone’s health." That's about an hour of running for most able bodied adults who have been making it a habit for three or four months. If you can't budget an hour a week for exercise, you're booking yourself too tight.

ericmcer 9y ago

Failing to exercise is an area where I think the victim/excuse mentality kinda falls to pieces. Unless you are just entirely ignorant that it's a concern, it is something that anyone can do. Do some yoga/pushups/sit-ups every morning (5-10mins) and then go for a short walk on your lunch-break. There is no way someone cannot do that unless they just 'don't want to'. It is free, takes almost no time, and can be as simple as walking around for 15 minutes. I don't think it is smug to challenge people to take the smallest, tiniest, bare minimum amount of personal responsibility.

ams6110 9y ago
Personal responsibility for what? One's own choices? I choose not to exercise. I've tried it plenty of times at the nagging of busybodies like you. I don't like it, and I don't want to do it. Why do YOU care about MY choice in this matter?
- cheald 9y ago
  You're upset at a straw man. The OP was condemning the "I would exercise, but I just can't because XYZ" attitude, not "I choose not to". There are precious few people who can't actually carve out time to exercise. Not wanting to is a different matter - but not wanting to is a choice you make, rather than a circumstance you're forced into.
makecheck 9y ago
There’s no time in the morning for people with terrible commutes and multiple jobs, etc. Some jobs have lunch breaks that are really short, especially if you have to drive somewhere to find food or wait in line.
- mc32 9y ago
  While I ack not everyone can home cook, cooking for lunch is one way to avoid wasting your lunch time waiting in line.
  - 9y ago

eric_b 9y ago

I work two jobs. I work 60 hours a week. I still find time to go to the gym 6 hours a week and walk my dog 6 hours a week. You know how I do it? I don't binge watch Netflix. In fact I don't watch any TV at all. I make exercise a priority. I'm not sure there is anyone who "can't find a moment to have a minute of rest in their lives". The busiest people I know are also some of the healthiest. Not having time is a poor excuse at best. The vast majority of those in poverty who "can't afford healthy food" do not work, or do not work more than 20-30 hours a week. They have ample time to exercise. (Body weight exercise is free, I might add - as is walking.)

adrr 9y ago

Have any studies backup any of your claims that people need to be rich to have time to exercise? Here's a study about TV consumption based on income level. https://www.statista.com/statistics/191558/average-daily-time-spent-on-watching-television-in-the-us-by-income/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/191558/average-daily-tim... As for commute time. More the you make the longer your commute. http://traveltrends.transportation.org/Documents/CA11-4.pdf http://traveltrends.transportation.org/Documents/CA11-4.pdf I bet if you looked for studies on income level and hours worked a week its correlated. Ask a CEO or senior executive how many hours they work a week i bet its 80+. As for healthy food. Its really easy to eat healthy without spending a ton. Chicken breast is frequently $4 to $5 a pound which is enough to feed two meals. Vegetables are really cheap. How much is a head of lettuce? $1.50 to $2.00? Lentils and whole grains don't cost much. And easiest way to eat healthy, limit your consumption which is cheaper than over consumption.

jdietrich 9y ago

>Not everyone is rich enough to have the time to exercise For full-time wage earners, there's actually a slightly negative correlation between wages and leisure time - people who earn more money have less free time. There has been a major long-term trend towards greater leisure time across all socioeconomic groups. Unemployed and retired people are not significantly more likely to exercise than working people, despite their obviously greater amount of leisure time. https://www.bls.gov/news.release/atus.nr0.htm https://www.bls.gov/news.release/atus.nr0.htm >can't even afford healthy food The richest American households only eat 0.6 more servings of fruit and vegetables per day than the poorest. The overall average intake was 4.76 servings, so this difference in intake is clinically insignificant. Education level was more strongly correlated with fruit and vegetable intake than income, but differences within socioeconomic groups are far more significant than differences between them. https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/87/6/1883/4754427 https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/87/6/1883/4754427 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0140673617322535 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S014067361... The shortcomings of American diets and lifestyles are a hell of a lot more complex than just a lack of time and money.

howlgram 9y ago

Your comment reads like a huge cope to yourself, case in point, the original comment was about being interested in exercise at all, not about exercising like an athlete.

dominotw 9y ago

> Not everyone is rich enough to have the time to exercise. He was specifically talking about a subset of people he/she is dating. You are talking about "everyone".

krautt 9y ago

sad, sad story. do you work in the soap opera industry? your comment inspired me to do 100 burpees. Having done them, i negated your weak rationalization.

dang 9y ago

You have a good point, but you also crossed into personal attack, and broke the site guideline which asks "please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize." This leads to crummy threads, so would you please not do that here? Regardless of how smug another commenter may be, or seem. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html