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China is solving this problem. Every citizen will have it's own score (by 2019 or something) and you get points taken away if any of your online friends or fami

by laci27 9y ago

China is solving this problem. Every citizen will have it's own score (by 2019 or something) and you get points taken away if any of your online friends or family say bad things about the communist party. It's a solution... but i'm not sure if it's the right one:) here's the article: http://www.wired.co.uk/article/chinese-government-social-credit-score-privacy-invasion http://www.wired.co.uk/article/chinese-government-social-cre...

Slansitartop 9y ago
> China is solving this problem China is run by a authoritarian oligarchy that wants to suppress any challenge to it's power. The planned "social credit" system is part of that suppression. FYI, this oligarchy has a list of "perils" that include: > “Western constitutional democracy”; others included promoting “universal values” of human rights, Western-inspired notions of media independence and civic participation [1] It's not trying to solve your problem with people's online lack of manners, and any imputation to the contrary is part of a smokescreen. > It's a solution... but i'm not sure if it's the right one It's the wrong solution, full stop. [1] http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/20/world/asia/chinas-new-leadership-takes-hard-line-in-secret-memo.html http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/20/world/asia/chinas-new-lead...
- TheAdamAndChe 9y ago
  The fact that China as a whole is an authoritarian oligarchy does not mean that they can't do things better than the US.
  - Slansitartop 9y ago
    > The fact that China as a whole is an authoritarian oligarchy does not mean that they can't do things better than the US. You're missing the point. The US should not emulate China's authoritarian systems of control, regardless of how well China can do them or how they might seem applicable to some aspect of American life. They are the tools of authoritarianism, and to bring them here is to allow authoritarianism to creep in.
- iamcasen 9y ago
  Not sure why you're being down voted. You're absolutely right. The current state of affairs in China should have everyone in a panic. I fully believe that they are leading the way into the future tech-wise, and that before long, all major metropolises will be fully automated with real-time systems that track faces, vehicles, purchases, movements, vacations, etc and then cross-reference all of that data with online activity. In China right now it's being touted as making everything in life seamless. To me it's the most terrifying form of the future.
oarsinsync 9y ago
I feel like we've crossed from "Simpsons did it" to "Black Mirror did it", as Black Mirror has an episode (Season 3 Episode 1) which is a similar world that everyone now inhabits. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nosedive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nosedive (warning, contains spoilers)

by laci27 9y ago

Slansitartop 9y ago

> China is solving this problem China is run by a authoritarian oligarchy that wants to suppress any challenge to it's power. The planned "social credit" system is part of that suppression. FYI, this oligarchy has a list of "perils" that include: > “Western constitutional democracy”; others included promoting “universal values” of human rights, Western-inspired notions of media independence and civic participation [1] It's not trying to solve your problem with people's online lack of manners, and any imputation to the contrary is part of a smokescreen. > It's a solution... but i'm not sure if it's the right one It's the wrong solution, full stop. [1] http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/20/world/asia/chinas-new-leadership-takes-hard-line-in-secret-memo.html http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/20/world/asia/chinas-new-lead...

TheAdamAndChe 9y ago
The fact that China as a whole is an authoritarian oligarchy does not mean that they can't do things better than the US.
- Slansitartop 9y ago
  > The fact that China as a whole is an authoritarian oligarchy does not mean that they can't do things better than the US. You're missing the point. The US should not emulate China's authoritarian systems of control, regardless of how well China can do them or how they might seem applicable to some aspect of American life. They are the tools of authoritarianism, and to bring them here is to allow authoritarianism to creep in.
iamcasen 9y ago
Not sure why you're being down voted. You're absolutely right. The current state of affairs in China should have everyone in a panic. I fully believe that they are leading the way into the future tech-wise, and that before long, all major metropolises will be fully automated with real-time systems that track faces, vehicles, purchases, movements, vacations, etc and then cross-reference all of that data with online activity. In China right now it's being touted as making everything in life seamless. To me it's the most terrifying form of the future.

oarsinsync 9y ago

I feel like we've crossed from "Simpsons did it" to "Black Mirror did it", as Black Mirror has an episode (Season 3 Episode 1) which is a similar world that everyone now inhabits. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nosedive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nosedive (warning, contains spoilers)