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Too bad onions was compromised by the NSA. that makes speaking up against the Bad Guys a bit more dangerous. Admittedly there is a high chance that the Italian
by singularity2001 9y ago
Too bad onions was compromised by the NSA. that makes speaking up against the Bad Guys a bit more dangerous.
Admittedly there is a high chance that the Italian high brass has NO finger on the American high brass, however as long as there is no certainty it's a safety risk.
- jstanley 9y agoEven if you believe the NSA have some practical attacks against Tor, are you not still better off using Tor than not using it?
- singularity2001 9y agobetter off staying silent
- hathawsh 9y agoWell, anything special you do that covers your tracks may make you look suspicious. If Tor becomes more ubiquitous, maybe it won't draw suspicion anymore.
- jstanley 9y agoRight. Reporting corruption over Tor makes you look suspicious, but they probably don't know what you're doing. Reporting corruption without using Tor means they know exactly what you're doing and will catch you.
- tlrobinson 9y agoHeh... https://daserste.ndr.de/panorama/xkeyscorerules100.txt https://daserste.ndr.de/panorama/xkeyscorerules100.txt Context: https://daserste.ndr.de/panorama/aktuell/nsa230_page-2.html https://daserste.ndr.de/panorama/aktuell/nsa230_page-2.html
- singularity2001 9y agoWhat happened to my brain? I just bought the idea that the surveillance state is overall more effective in suppressing criminality.
- mar77i 9y agoIt's simple. Hand over the monopoly on information to your surveillance state and you don't get to know when it still doesn't work. If thinking the govt is broken is treason, you can't fix it any more, but not because it's perfect.
- jessaustin 9y agoPoe's Law, in effect.
- 0xFFC 9y ago>Too bad onions was compromised by the NSA. that makes speaking up against the Bad Guys a bit more dangerous. Any references you would want to provide for this claim?
- confounded 9y agoI'd be interested too. I'm aware of the Yasha Levine theory, and complains about js in Firefox ESR, but not much else.
- emodendroket 9y agoYasha Levine just released a book which is supposed to give a lot of documentation for his claims. It sounds compelling from a few interviews I listened to but I'm not that far into the book.
- kernelPan1c 9y agoIf you access an http site, a government controlled exit node could inject js and eventually gather enough info through profiling mouse movements and browsing habits to ID you. Even with https, if the feds are in cahoots with the certificate authorities, you would be just as vulnerable to this sort of injection right? However, tor hidden services is another story. I think this is where a bad actor would hit a wall.
- jstanley 9y agoYou're probably at more risk of a criminal-controlled exit node stealing your login details than you are of a government-controlled exit node working out your physical location.
- kernelPan1c 9y agoYes, anonymity and security are separate but related issues.
- jerheinze 9y ago
- jelly 9y agoTor was /targeted/ by the NSA, but I haven't read anything that makes me believe it (or onion routing in general) has been compromised. I get the feeling tor has proven so effective that the only reasonable attack against it is sowing mistrust.
- andai 9y agoThe only reasonable attack is using it carelessly. Check out How they got caught: https://youtu.be/eQ2OZKitRwc https://youtu.be/eQ2OZKitRwc