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Better immunization is one reason why the number of children who die has gone down by so much, from almost 10 million in 2000 to 5 million last year. What a st

Better immunization is one reason why the number of children who die has gone down by so much, from almost 10 million in 2000 to 5 million last year. What a staggering scale to be dealing with. Two of my grandparents lost siblings, as children. Both mourned the loss for their entire (long) lives. Enough so that I was affected by the stories. Years of tears, stories, missing. Those are just two children, who died 80 years ago. 5 million...

sambe 9y ago
per year (with some adjustment for the changing success rate).
- deleted 9y ago
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anc84 9y ago
Loss of young children is considered and handled differently in different cultures though. Where it is more normal, the impact on the parent's lifes will not be as heavy.
- dalbasal 9y ago
  They were from different places, but childhood mortality was common everywhere then. My grandmother was a teenager, in 1930s Poland. My great grandmother had 3 children. All three died the same winter, from dysentery. My great grandmother was near catatonic in her depression. Later she had three more children. The youngest (my grandmother's baby brother) died of infection. These were common stories, and I was witness to that suffering even though I saw only the shade of that loss decades later. His older sister (my great aunt) is alive today, 97 years old. She still misses him. The Grandfather was Irish. He lost a 7 year old sister to a farming accident, when he was 18. The girl was with him, and he felt that his own carelessness caused her death. I witnessed his mourning too. I even saw him cry at her grave, unusual for a man of his time and place. Every one of those stories is a tremendous tragedy, scars on the souls of many.
- matt4077 9y ago
  Yes, black people experience emotions differently, more like animals /s
- gberger 9y ago
  A dead child is a dead child.
- euyyn 9y ago
  What an unempathetic belief...
somesayso 9y ago
>Better immunization is one reason why the number of children who die has gone down by so much, from almost 10 million in 2000 to 5 million last year. Would like to see some solid studies that prove this claim. Also have to consider the large (and rising) number of vaccine injury cases in third world countries...
- adventured 9y ago
  > Also have to consider the large (and rising) number of vaccine injury cases in third world You toss out entirely empty statements like that ("large" and "rising" and "injuries"; how large? rising at what rate? what kind of injuries?), while demanding solid studies and proof that vaccinations save millions of lives. What more could need to be said?
  - somesayso 9y ago
    Empty statements? How come you accept such statements when coming from someone like Mr Gates, even when he speaks to the whole world! >while demanding solid studies and proof that vaccinations save millions of lives. Sure. Such claims, even seemingly positive ones such as these should be examined before passed on or being accepted as truth. As for what the source of my concern was, it is this. http://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/health/heath-ministry-to-study-2017-spike-in-vaccine-related-adverse-events/article22537462.ece http://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/health/heath-ministry-to-st... Btw, Bill gates foundation has been trying to influence vaccination policies that are implemented in India... But it is just one article. No one is going to follow up or anything because as we all know, vaccines are 100% "safe and effective!"
    - kaybe 9y ago
      Do you want the 99.99% effective vaccine or the far lower chance of not getting a deadly desease? In the areas where herd immunity is a thing because everyone is vaccinated you might be fine, but if that's not the case.. just look at the way Polio devastated lives before the vaccination.
    - dalbasal 9y ago

sambe 9y ago

per year (with some adjustment for the changing success rate).

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anc84 9y ago

Loss of young children is considered and handled differently in different cultures though. Where it is more normal, the impact on the parent's lifes will not be as heavy.

dalbasal 9y ago
They were from different places, but childhood mortality was common everywhere then. My grandmother was a teenager, in 1930s Poland. My great grandmother had 3 children. All three died the same winter, from dysentery. My great grandmother was near catatonic in her depression. Later she had three more children. The youngest (my grandmother's baby brother) died of infection. These were common stories, and I was witness to that suffering even though I saw only the shade of that loss decades later. His older sister (my great aunt) is alive today, 97 years old. She still misses him. The Grandfather was Irish. He lost a 7 year old sister to a farming accident, when he was 18. The girl was with him, and he felt that his own carelessness caused her death. I witnessed his mourning too. I even saw him cry at her grave, unusual for a man of his time and place. Every one of those stories is a tremendous tragedy, scars on the souls of many.
matt4077 9y ago
Yes, black people experience emotions differently, more like animals /s
gberger 9y ago
A dead child is a dead child.
euyyn 9y ago
What an unempathetic belief...

somesayso 9y ago

>Better immunization is one reason why the number of children who die has gone down by so much, from almost 10 million in 2000 to 5 million last year. Would like to see some solid studies that prove this claim. Also have to consider the large (and rising) number of vaccine injury cases in third world countries...

adventured 9y ago
> Also have to consider the large (and rising) number of vaccine injury cases in third world You toss out entirely empty statements like that ("large" and "rising" and "injuries"; how large? rising at what rate? what kind of injuries?), while demanding solid studies and proof that vaccinations save millions of lives. What more could need to be said?
- somesayso 9y ago
  Empty statements? How come you accept such statements when coming from someone like Mr Gates, even when he speaks to the whole world! >while demanding solid studies and proof that vaccinations save millions of lives. Sure. Such claims, even seemingly positive ones such as these should be examined before passed on or being accepted as truth. As for what the source of my concern was, it is this. http://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/health/heath-ministry-to-study-2017-spike-in-vaccine-related-adverse-events/article22537462.ece http://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/health/heath-ministry-to-st... Btw, Bill gates foundation has been trying to influence vaccination policies that are implemented in India... But it is just one article. No one is going to follow up or anything because as we all know, vaccines are 100% "safe and effective!"
  - kaybe 9y ago
    Do you want the 99.99% effective vaccine or the far lower chance of not getting a deadly desease? In the areas where herd immunity is a thing because everyone is vaccinated you might be fine, but if that's not the case.. just look at the way Polio devastated lives before the vaccination.
  - dalbasal 9y ago