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fastly appears to have paid up http://ipwire.com/stories/blackbird-technologies-settles-patent-infringement-case-web-content-delivery-company/ http://ipwire.co

by x0x0 9y ago

fastly appears to have paid up http://ipwire.com/stories/blackbird-technologies-settles-patent-infringement-case-web-content-delivery-company/ http://ipwire.com/stories/blackbird-technologies-settles-pat...

jlgaddis 9y ago
Yep, same patent too. I'm curious how much Fastly paid. It's too bad that they didn't hold out for a weeks longer. Maybe they'll fight next time.
dna_polymerase 9y ago
I guess they are not as well funded as cloudflare and therefore couldn't take the risk of loosing in court.
willyyr 9y ago
If the patent got invalidated now, wouldn't they be able to get their "fees" back?
- chii 9y ago
  retroactively applying a law is not very conducive to making predictions about legal matters, and therefore, it's very rarely done (if at all?). Plus, even if blackbird has to pay back their collected fees, they can "just" bankrupt - after all, the money is gone (unless you are implying that any dividends/payment to employees etc, are clawed back...)
  - AnthonyMouse 9y ago
    > Plus, even if blackbird has to pay back their collected fees, they can "just" bankrupt - after all, the money is gone (unless you are implying that any dividends/payment to employees etc, are clawed back...) Money that was already paid is gone, but if you had some settlement where you pay some amount per device, you could stop paying them going forward. It would also be effective against the use of invalid patents by large companies that wouldn't be bankrupted, which would reduce their incentive to lobby for their continued granting.
- dragonwriter 9y ago
  No. Past settlements are not undone.
zarex 9y ago
Yuck. I hate the way ipwire.com describes blackbird. They make it seem like they are doing something good.
- tgsovlerkhgsel 9y ago
  I think IPWire is just providing the press release written by Blackbird themselves.
- ryanlol 9y ago
  This is a press release distribution service.
- paulgb 9y ago
  For context, IPWire exists in a state of denial that there is a patent troll problem: http://ipwire.com/podcast/ep-14-special-bloomberg-view-stronger-bill-article-response-nonsense/ http://ipwire.com/podcast/ep-14-special-bloomberg-view-stron...

by x0x0 9y ago

jlgaddis 9y ago

Yep, same patent too. I'm curious how much Fastly paid. It's too bad that they didn't hold out for a weeks longer. Maybe they'll fight next time.

dna_polymerase 9y ago

I guess they are not as well funded as cloudflare and therefore couldn't take the risk of loosing in court.

willyyr 9y ago

If the patent got invalidated now, wouldn't they be able to get their "fees" back?

chii 9y ago
retroactively applying a law is not very conducive to making predictions about legal matters, and therefore, it's very rarely done (if at all?). Plus, even if blackbird has to pay back their collected fees, they can "just" bankrupt - after all, the money is gone (unless you are implying that any dividends/payment to employees etc, are clawed back...)
- AnthonyMouse 9y ago
  > Plus, even if blackbird has to pay back their collected fees, they can "just" bankrupt - after all, the money is gone (unless you are implying that any dividends/payment to employees etc, are clawed back...) Money that was already paid is gone, but if you had some settlement where you pay some amount per device, you could stop paying them going forward. It would also be effective against the use of invalid patents by large companies that wouldn't be bankrupted, which would reduce their incentive to lobby for their continued granting.
dragonwriter 9y ago
No. Past settlements are not undone.

zarex 9y ago

Yuck. I hate the way ipwire.com describes blackbird. They make it seem like they are doing something good.

tgsovlerkhgsel 9y ago
I think IPWire is just providing the press release written by Blackbird themselves.
ryanlol 9y ago
This is a press release distribution service.
paulgb 9y ago
For context, IPWire exists in a state of denial that there is a patent troll problem: http://ipwire.com/podcast/ep-14-special-bloomberg-view-stronger-bill-article-response-nonsense/ http://ipwire.com/podcast/ep-14-special-bloomberg-view-stron...