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education system? It is a system systemically failed generations of Chinese. Some figures they didn't tell you - 1. 6 out of the 45 classmates in my primary sc

education system? It is a system systemically failed generations of Chinese. Some figures they didn't tell you - 1. 6 out of the 45 classmates in my primary school ever had the chance to finish university level education. 2. those 39 kids who didn't get the chance to study in uni were not stupid or lazy - many of them studied until mid night every day. 3. not talking about some random poor areas in China, talking about tier 1 primary school in Shanghai. not enough fun? sure - now you need to own a $2-3 million apartment in that area so the kids can go to that fancy school to enjoy that mentioned science education. If she/he is lucky to finish master level education, his/her starting salary will be $1.5k per month before tax. what a good start of career! you are right one thing - you are not pro-China, you are China bashing by promoting its most ugly & brutal part.

nopinsight 9y ago
Which years were your classmates in school? I recognize that there were quite a few lost decades for the Chinese. From the figures I see the situation is getting much better now in terms of access but yes the atmosphere is still very competitive and resources and opportunities still need to be expanded.
tanilama 9y ago
According to this news article, there are over 7+ million[1] college grads last year from China, while the enrollment of primary school is between 15-20 millions[2]. So overall, 30%-50% of students made from primary school to college in China. [1]http://hubei.eol.cn/hubeinews/201704/t20170425_1510433.shtml http://hubei.eol.cn/hubeinews/201704/t20170425_1510433.shtml [2]http://www.moe.gov.cn/jyb_sjzl/s5990/201612/t20161219_292432.html http://www.moe.gov.cn/jyb_sjzl/s5990/201612/t20161219_292432...
- HumanDrivenDev 9y ago
  Chinese government figures are not a reliable source, given their extensive and documented history of fudging the numbers. It's slightly better than an anecdote, I suppose.
  - tanilama 9y ago
    They have no reason to play math here, it can be proved by other statistics too, like the total population born that year, and the one participate in the college entrance exam 4 years ago.
dang 9y ago
We've warned you before about not using HN for national flamewar, yet most of your posts to HN—in this thread and elsewhere—are making this sort of aggrieved comment about China. That comes across as an agenda, and we don't want agendas here. They're mechanical, make for bad conversation, and provoke worse from others. HN is for intellectual curiosity, about as far from agendas as can be. I'm sure you have legit reasons for this grievance, but you're abusing HN by taking it out in the threads here. We ban accounts that do this kind of thing, so please stop it if you want to keep commenting here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

nopinsight 9y ago

Which years were your classmates in school? I recognize that there were quite a few lost decades for the Chinese. From the figures I see the situation is getting much better now in terms of access but yes the atmosphere is still very competitive and resources and opportunities still need to be expanded.

tanilama 9y ago

According to this news article, there are over 7+ million[1] college grads last year from China, while the enrollment of primary school is between 15-20 millions[2]. So overall, 30%-50% of students made from primary school to college in China. [1]http://hubei.eol.cn/hubeinews/201704/t20170425_1510433.shtml http://hubei.eol.cn/hubeinews/201704/t20170425_1510433.shtml [2]http://www.moe.gov.cn/jyb_sjzl/s5990/201612/t20161219_292432.html http://www.moe.gov.cn/jyb_sjzl/s5990/201612/t20161219_292432...

HumanDrivenDev 9y ago
Chinese government figures are not a reliable source, given their extensive and documented history of fudging the numbers. It's slightly better than an anecdote, I suppose.
- tanilama 9y ago
  They have no reason to play math here, it can be proved by other statistics too, like the total population born that year, and the one participate in the college entrance exam 4 years ago.

dang 9y ago

We've warned you before about not using HN for national flamewar, yet most of your posts to HN—in this thread and elsewhere—are making this sort of aggrieved comment about China. That comes across as an agenda, and we don't want agendas here. They're mechanical, make for bad conversation, and provoke worse from others. HN is for intellectual curiosity, about as far from agendas as can be. I'm sure you have legit reasons for this grievance, but you're abusing HN by taking it out in the threads here. We ban accounts that do this kind of thing, so please stop it if you want to keep commenting here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html