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It's basically the same in computer security where you now see most vulnerabilities reported to vendors are from China. I wouldn't necessarily say China has "be
by Eridrus 9y ago
It's basically the same in computer security where you now see most vulnerabilities reported to vendors are from China. I wouldn't necessarily say China has "beaten" the rest of the world, but rather people in the west have basically decided that form of signaling is too expensive.
There's a lot of people publishing ML work on public datasets which barely move the needle. It's usually not too hard to squeeze something extra into a model to do better than the previous work, and if not there are always other datasets, so these raw numbers don't really means lot IMO.
Not to say China won't overtake the rest of the world, eg lots of great work coming out of MSRA, but I think that there is a lot of truth to the idea that once you start measuring something, people start gaming it, and I think the political environment in China encourages this gaming, so I would pay less attention to metrics like this that can be gamed.
Even paper metrics are gameable. Most reviewers acknowledge that once you remove the obvious accepts and obvious rejects you've got a large pile of passable but forgettable work. So if you can just keep cranking out passable work that fits the zeitgeist, you'll get more papers accepted.
I might be wildly off base here, I haven't tried to construct statistics, and academia has a large amount of starfucking going on, so it may be a cultural bias thing, but I don't get the impression that China is anywhere near dominant yet, but yet all these statistics look great!
- nopinsight 9y agoThanks for your thoughtful reply! I think everyone, including the Chinese, agrees that they are not (yet) dominant in AI, just that they are catching up very fast to the best in the world. They might even beat all others in optimizing in existing paradigms. Part of their 2030 plan to become preeminent in AI is to develop indigenous breakthroughs by 2025 and be equal to the leading nation by 2020. They are very much on track to achieve the closest goal given evidence to date.