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I would argue that web development have never been as easy as it is now and that a lot of people just does not take it seriously enough to bother to learn it pr

by cc81 9y ago

I would argue that web development have never been as easy as it is now and that a lot of people just does not take it seriously enough to bother to learn it properly. People think that just because that they did some jQuery development 10 years ago they should be able to use to the same skills now and discard all new developments. Being able to use modern JavaScript and with linting/prettier will in practice make it pretty rare that you end up doing stupid things due to language limitations. And if you want types you have TypeScript that works very well in most work flows. html/css is pretty ok to work with these days and libraries like React and that echo system makes it pretty easy to scale web development so that many people can be involved in the same code base.

adventured 9y ago
The nice thing about the current situation is, if you want to you can still use jQuery, basic CSS & HTML5 and ECMA sub version 6 for 99% of all sites that exist and are likely to exist. That will remain true for the next decade at least. Most sites are not applications and never will be. Most businesses will never need a complicated site. Most of the Web has zero beneficial use for React or ECMA 6. Factually that's easily demonstrated just by looking at data compilations of what the Web largely consists of: static content, typically pushed out into the world via a basic CMS. That isn't going to change. Most of what's going on is an evolution in the top tiers, up the value chain. Facebook & Co have dramatically greater technology demands than Joe Small Business or Susan the blogger.
ffang 9y ago
Easy? No, I believe it's very hard to setup a frontend project.
- cc81 9y ago
  1. install node.js 2. npm install create-react-app 3. create-react-app your-app 4. npm start Now you have a react app with a development up and running. To create a production build write "npm run build". To add a package write "npm install the-package".
- shados 9y ago
  It's just as easy as it always was. Put a script tag pointing to your favorite tool in a blank html page, and get going. Oh, you mean setting up a state of the art web application? Years ago we had to roll our own pipeline, often building our own bundler and you had to use a ton of separate tools not meant to work together. There was no package manager so we had to download all of the stricts from random websites and hope for the best sticking them in a /vendor folder. Nowaway you use the CLI of your favorite framework, type 1 command and you have an app all configured for a real world production environment. It's never been easier (and is easier than pretty much any other type of software development). The only thing that changed is that since its so easy, you are expected to produce a high quality app if you want to be taken seriously. That part is hard.
- csmiller 9y ago
  It's incredibly easy, given that every major framework has a cli that does it all for you.

by cc81 9y ago

adventured 9y ago

The nice thing about the current situation is, if you want to you can still use jQuery, basic CSS & HTML5 and ECMA sub version 6 for 99% of all sites that exist and are likely to exist. That will remain true for the next decade at least. Most sites are not applications and never will be. Most businesses will never need a complicated site. Most of the Web has zero beneficial use for React or ECMA 6. Factually that's easily demonstrated just by looking at data compilations of what the Web largely consists of: static content, typically pushed out into the world via a basic CMS. That isn't going to change. Most of what's going on is an evolution in the top tiers, up the value chain. Facebook & Co have dramatically greater technology demands than Joe Small Business or Susan the blogger.

ffang 9y ago

Easy? No, I believe it's very hard to setup a frontend project.

cc81 9y ago
1. install node.js 2. npm install create-react-app 3. create-react-app your-app 4. npm start Now you have a react app with a development up and running. To create a production build write "npm run build". To add a package write "npm install the-package".
shados 9y ago
It's just as easy as it always was. Put a script tag pointing to your favorite tool in a blank html page, and get going. Oh, you mean setting up a state of the art web application? Years ago we had to roll our own pipeline, often building our own bundler and you had to use a ton of separate tools not meant to work together. There was no package manager so we had to download all of the stricts from random websites and hope for the best sticking them in a /vendor folder. Nowaway you use the CLI of your favorite framework, type 1 command and you have an app all configured for a real world production environment. It's never been easier (and is easier than pretty much any other type of software development). The only thing that changed is that since its so easy, you are expected to produce a high quality app if you want to be taken seriously. That part is hard.
csmiller 9y ago
It's incredibly easy, given that every major framework has a cli that does it all for you.