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To be fair, the author says right at the beginning: "Please remember that we are all unpaid volunteers who have our own studies and/or day jobs, and no one has
by saganus 9y ago
To be fair, the author says right at the beginning:
"Please remember that we are all unpaid volunteers who have our own studies and/or day jobs, and no one has had more experience with Ceph than what you get from reading the manual."
So while you might have a valid point, it's hard to develop those skills if you are not a proper sysadmin. If you are just an unpaid volunteer, it means that most likely the environment you work in can't afford (or won't pay) for actual sysadmins whose paid job is to know these things.
Maybe the discussion should be, why were there unpaid volunteers doing sysadmin work instead of an actual sysadmin, but I guess that is a normal occurrence in universities all over the world?
- kbenson 9y agoConsidering sysadmins often have keys to the kingdom, unpaid volunteers for sysadmin work seems really risky to me. Want volunteers to design a webapp for you? Go ahead, your professional sysadmin will make sure they only get permission to what they need. It doesn't work well the other way around.
- batbomb 9y agoThey also said: > First and foremost, having a multiple-day spanning downtime is completely unacceptable for a central service like this [...] Which goes to your last point a bit. It's not a normal occurrence to all universities, but to some. If it was me, I'd turn this thing off repeatedly until the people used it realized it's value and tried to dedicate a bit of manpower to it.
- amelius 9y agoOr perhaps the question should be why the gun didn't have basic/full protection against foot-shooting.
- sekh60 9y agoIn defense of ceph the documentation is fantastic and ceph clusters have only gotten easier toanage with every release. I am a homelabber, not a sysadmin and I run a cluster and have only run into one or two issues that the docs or patch notes didn't cover. Also the mailing list is incredibly friendly and helpful. The IRC channel is not as useful iny experience though, seems like with many there are a ton of idlers. One does need to keep up with the release notes, mainly for the past couple releases, especially with the latest release, luminous which marked stable bluestore as a more performance alternative to filestore.
- saganus 9y agoI don't even think Ceph is at fault here, since they are not the ones making a critical piece of infrastructure be the responsibility of unpaid volunteers. Even if said volunteers where seasoned sysadmins, I don't think they should be stressing over something so critical while being unpaid. Obviously you don't always get to be paid in money. Sometimes you feel like doing it for the greater good, or because you like the institution, or whatever the reason. However I still think as a university you should not rely on unpaid staff to handle critical systems because it's not a nice thing to do. I don't think most people enjoy stressing over a hobby.
- lathiat 9y agoThese kind of volunteer positions are exactly how you learn before you have a real job. Worked great for me. And then had experience to actually get me into a real job.