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The diet she's describing is more commonly known as the ketogenic (keto) diet, rather than the "Bitcoin carnivore" diet.

znpy 9y ago
Yes, definitely! The difference here is that you are supposed to do a ketogenic diet for a relatively short amount of time whereas this "Bitcoin-carnivore" thing is supposed to be more of a "lifestyle" as in "you're doing keto for the rest of your life".
- jackhack 9y ago
  I'm not sure I understand your comment, but a ketogenic diet is sustainable indefinitely although it becomes challenging. The majority of calories are taken as fats, rather than carbohydrates/starches/simple sugars as is the typical western diet. The liver quickly adapts to burning fats rather than converting sugars and avoids the associated insulin conversion response. Nevertheless, after being inundated with the food groups adn "healthy" food pyramid favoring carborhydrates ('healthy grains'), it does feel very odd to put four tablespoons of butter in cup of coffee, then follow that with a breakfast of 1/2 pound of bacon with eggs and cheese, and convince oneself you're eating a healthy diet. My results speak for themselves though -- lower serum cholesterol, weight loss, and lower blood pressure.
tmearnest 9y ago
Not really. The keto diet includes plants. Just not starchy or sweet ones, e.g. cauliflower, lettuce, broccoli, etc.
- logical42 9y ago
  A diet which is a subset of another diet can still be classified as a diet of that type, at least that’s how I think of it.
  - fao_ 9y ago
    Diets are important in what they exclude.
    - stouset 9y ago
      In fact, that’s generally the entire motivation behind distinguishing a diet in the first place.
    - ha8o8le 9y ago
      I agree. All meat is too extreme... What makes low carb diets great is that they exclude grains and sugar which are the real problem.
- riku_iki 9y ago
  > Just not starchy or sweet ones, e.g. cauliflower, lettuce, broccoli, etc. I dropped broccoli because of high carbs..
  - rbinv 9y ago
    Broccoli is not really high in (net) carbs.
    - riku_iki 9y ago
      Around 5 carbs per cup, which can push from 20 carbs / day cap for keto diet.
- enkiv2 9y ago
  Doesn't literally any diet that induces ketogenesis qualify as "a keto diet"? Or, has somebody branded some particular ketogenesis-inducing diet "THE keto diet"? I'm vaguely aware of some non-epileptics trying to induce ketogenesis in order to lose weight (which seems pretty dangerous, and maybe self-defeating since smelling like turpentine is less attractive than having curves), but real ketogenic diets (as recommended by medical professionals for intractable epilepsy) generally contain plants.
maruhan2 9y ago
Depends on how much protein she's consuming. If she consumes too much protein, she'll no longer be on ketogenesis. It doesn't say in the article how much fat she's consuming vs protein, but judging by her saying she's mainly eating meat, I don't think she's on ketogensis.

znpy 9y ago

Yes, definitely! The difference here is that you are supposed to do a ketogenic diet for a relatively short amount of time whereas this "Bitcoin-carnivore" thing is supposed to be more of a "lifestyle" as in "you're doing keto for the rest of your life".

jackhack 9y ago
I'm not sure I understand your comment, but a ketogenic diet is sustainable indefinitely although it becomes challenging. The majority of calories are taken as fats, rather than carbohydrates/starches/simple sugars as is the typical western diet. The liver quickly adapts to burning fats rather than converting sugars and avoids the associated insulin conversion response. Nevertheless, after being inundated with the food groups adn "healthy" food pyramid favoring carborhydrates ('healthy grains'), it does feel very odd to put four tablespoons of butter in cup of coffee, then follow that with a breakfast of 1/2 pound of bacon with eggs and cheese, and convince oneself you're eating a healthy diet. My results speak for themselves though -- lower serum cholesterol, weight loss, and lower blood pressure.

tmearnest 9y ago

Not really. The keto diet includes plants. Just not starchy or sweet ones, e.g. cauliflower, lettuce, broccoli, etc.

logical42 9y ago
A diet which is a subset of another diet can still be classified as a diet of that type, at least that’s how I think of it.
- fao_ 9y ago
  Diets are important in what they exclude.
  - stouset 9y ago
    In fact, that’s generally the entire motivation behind distinguishing a diet in the first place.
  - ha8o8le 9y ago
    I agree. All meat is too extreme... What makes low carb diets great is that they exclude grains and sugar which are the real problem.
riku_iki 9y ago
> Just not starchy or sweet ones, e.g. cauliflower, lettuce, broccoli, etc. I dropped broccoli because of high carbs..
- rbinv 9y ago
  Broccoli is not really high in (net) carbs.
  - riku_iki 9y ago
    Around 5 carbs per cup, which can push from 20 carbs / day cap for keto diet.
enkiv2 9y ago
Doesn't literally any diet that induces ketogenesis qualify as "a keto diet"? Or, has somebody branded some particular ketogenesis-inducing diet "THE keto diet"? I'm vaguely aware of some non-epileptics trying to induce ketogenesis in order to lose weight (which seems pretty dangerous, and maybe self-defeating since smelling like turpentine is less attractive than having curves), but real ketogenic diets (as recommended by medical professionals for intractable epilepsy) generally contain plants.

maruhan2 9y ago

Depends on how much protein she's consuming. If she consumes too much protein, she'll no longer be on ketogenesis. It doesn't say in the article how much fat she's consuming vs protein, but judging by her saying she's mainly eating meat, I don't think she's on ketogensis.