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Jim Carrey urges people to delete their Facebook accounts and dump the stock

36 points by SirLJ 9y ago

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freejulian 9y ago
Delete your Facebook because it was the Russians who caused Hillary to lose! Ignore the rigged primary, a fake economic "recovery", and the fact that she was a very disliked nominee from the start. Stop with the scapegoating already.
- paulgb 9y ago
  Who said anything about Hillary? Is the fact that Russia has and will continue to interfere with elections in American and around the world not troubling to you, regardless of party?
  - freejulian 9y ago
    Do you have any evidence that the Russians interfered with the election? Any examples of these Facebook ads that convinced millions to vote for Trump?
    - mlazos 9y ago
      Just because a quantity is hard to measure doesn’t mean it’s zero. Zuck admitted that hundreds of millions of people saw ads purchased by Russian operatives. To say that has zero effect on all of them just because we can’t precisely measure the effect is wrong. To change the outcome of the election you don’t need millions, just a few hundred thousand. I’m not saying it changed the outcome, I’m saying it’s at least plausible with these numbers.
      - freejulian 9y ago
        Who purchased these ads? The Russian government? A Russian company? A Russian individual? I'm asking for hard evidence, that's all. Please show me some.
        mlazos 9y ago
        For the above conclusion (ie that it's plausible the election was affected) It doesn't matter exactly who did, especially when you can tell their motives by simply looking at some of the ads. I did a cursory glance at a google search for Russian ads and came up with these examples. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-socialmedia/u-s-lawmakers-release-sample-of-russian-bought-facebook-ads-idUSKBN1D15GU https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-socialme... https://gizmodo.com/here-are-14-russian-ads-that-ran-on-facebook-during-the-1820052443 https://gizmodo.com/here-are-14-russian-ads-that-ran-on-face... and all of the ads are clearly aimed at sowing discord on wedge issues. To say you need to know exactly who did this in order to make the conclusion that they were at the very least trying to propagate disinformation is ridiculously absolutist.
    - nscalf 9y ago
      Well, I found the Russian in the thread.
    - paulgb 9y ago
      Facebook themselves have admitted millions of people saw content traced back to the Kremlin-connected Internet Research Agency. > Any examples of these Facebook ads that convinced millions to vote for Trump? I never said there was.
      - freejulian 9y ago
        > Facebook themselves have admitted millions of people saw content traced back to the Kremlin-connected Internet Research Agency. Ok, what actual hard evidence is there? Who actually purchased the ads in question? Can we see the ads they purchased? How much did they spend?
kozikow 9y ago
What stops Russia from buying Facebook stocks to prevent activist investors from sending a message?
- dogma1138 9y ago
  Facebook’s market cap is about 10 times the defense budget of Russia that’s what’s stopping them. Asymmetric information warfare is cost effective because it’s cheap spending over half a trillion dollars isn’t something they can afford.
dragonwriter 9y ago
Heh. Over profiting from Russian interference. Which Twitter also did (with knowledge and ignoring warnings), but Carrey posted about it from his Twitter account, without mentioning Twitter or plans to leave that platform. So, either the reason is false, or it's poorly informed.
driverdan 9y ago
I'm not disagreeing with the idea but why does anyone care what Jim Carrey has to say about Facebook? He's just an actor which isn't a profession that knows anything about the topic. Keep in mind that he's also an anti-vaxer so he's not exactly the most rational person.
- brador 9y ago
  He has clout. A fanbase, and money. Thus his words are more impactful then a regular Joe popping off.
RickJWagner 9y ago
I urge Jim Carrey and every other celebrity to discuss this at length with their personal circle of friends. But otherwise shut up about everything political. I'm sick and tired of hearing celebrity political opinions.
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36 points by SirLJ 9y ago

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Delete your Facebook because it was the Russians who caused Hillary to lose! Ignore the rigged primary, a fake economic "recovery", and the fact that she was a very disliked nominee from the start. Stop with the scapegoating already.

paulgb 9y ago
Who said anything about Hillary? Is the fact that Russia has and will continue to interfere with elections in American and around the world not troubling to you, regardless of party?
- freejulian 9y ago
  Do you have any evidence that the Russians interfered with the election? Any examples of these Facebook ads that convinced millions to vote for Trump?
  - mlazos 9y ago
    Just because a quantity is hard to measure doesn’t mean it’s zero. Zuck admitted that hundreds of millions of people saw ads purchased by Russian operatives. To say that has zero effect on all of them just because we can’t precisely measure the effect is wrong. To change the outcome of the election you don’t need millions, just a few hundred thousand. I’m not saying it changed the outcome, I’m saying it’s at least plausible with these numbers.
    - freejulian 9y ago
      Who purchased these ads? The Russian government? A Russian company? A Russian individual? I'm asking for hard evidence, that's all. Please show me some.
      - mlazos 9y ago
        For the above conclusion (ie that it's plausible the election was affected) It doesn't matter exactly who did, especially when you can tell their motives by simply looking at some of the ads. I did a cursory glance at a google search for Russian ads and came up with these examples. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-socialmedia/u-s-lawmakers-release-sample-of-russian-bought-facebook-ads-idUSKBN1D15GU https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-socialme... https://gizmodo.com/here-are-14-russian-ads-that-ran-on-facebook-during-the-1820052443 https://gizmodo.com/here-are-14-russian-ads-that-ran-on-face... and all of the ads are clearly aimed at sowing discord on wedge issues. To say you need to know exactly who did this in order to make the conclusion that they were at the very least trying to propagate disinformation is ridiculously absolutist.
  - nscalf 9y ago
    Well, I found the Russian in the thread.
  - paulgb 9y ago
    Facebook themselves have admitted millions of people saw content traced back to the Kremlin-connected Internet Research Agency. > Any examples of these Facebook ads that convinced millions to vote for Trump? I never said there was.
    - freejulian 9y ago
      > Facebook themselves have admitted millions of people saw content traced back to the Kremlin-connected Internet Research Agency. Ok, what actual hard evidence is there? Who actually purchased the ads in question? Can we see the ads they purchased? How much did they spend?

kozikow 9y ago

What stops Russia from buying Facebook stocks to prevent activist investors from sending a message?

dogma1138 9y ago
Facebook’s market cap is about 10 times the defense budget of Russia that’s what’s stopping them. Asymmetric information warfare is cost effective because it’s cheap spending over half a trillion dollars isn’t something they can afford.

dragonwriter 9y ago

Heh. Over profiting from Russian interference. Which Twitter also did (with knowledge and ignoring warnings), but Carrey posted about it from his Twitter account, without mentioning Twitter or plans to leave that platform. So, either the reason is false, or it's poorly informed.

driverdan 9y ago

I'm not disagreeing with the idea but why does anyone care what Jim Carrey has to say about Facebook? He's just an actor which isn't a profession that knows anything about the topic. Keep in mind that he's also an anti-vaxer so he's not exactly the most rational person.

brador 9y ago
He has clout. A fanbase, and money. Thus his words are more impactful then a regular Joe popping off.

RickJWagner 9y ago

I urge Jim Carrey and every other celebrity to discuss this at length with their personal circle of friends. But otherwise shut up about everything political. I'm sick and tired of hearing celebrity political opinions.

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