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Buzzwords... like empowering? One example is that now my websites need to have full screen agreement popup for each 3rd party cookie which will not help anyone

Buzzwords... like empowering? One example is that now my websites need to have full screen agreement popup for each 3rd party cookie which will not help anyone do anything. You can already set 3rd party cookie preferences in browser. Do you think think this will stop data collection and mining in anyway? These kinda a laws is why germany has no free wifi anywhere cos owner gets fined for anything that happens on his wifi... so good luck to find decent hotspot in Berlin for example... There should be regulations but when they are too stiff they don’t help anyone in this case

tremon 9y ago
my websites need to have full screen agreement popup for each 3rd party cookie Oh please. Please be factual even in your rants. For one, a single notice is quite enough. And secondly, it's not about cookies, but all forms of user tagging, including e.g. browser fingerprinting, which does not require any client-side data. Do you think think this will stop data collection and mining in anyway? I hope not. I really look forward to those massive fines.
- mirko22 9y ago
  Single notice doesn't make it better, and sorry if my phrasing is not the best. And it is about cookies too... What about massive fines for small companies? Large ones will pay and continue making money off your data while the small companies will go bust for even simple mistakes.
madez 9y ago
> These kinda a laws is why germany has no free wifi anywhere cos owner gets fined for anything that happens on his wifi... The law has changed. Since October 13th 2017 the owner of the internet access point is no longer responsible for what happens through his access as long as he doesn't collude with those, that do mischief with his access.
- mirko22 9y ago
  Yes, so do we have to have similar laws now and wait for them to backfire to take them away again? This law has seriously impacted WiFi availability in Germany for some time. Torrent laws are used by lawyers and scamers to send out fines to random people and scam them for money, what does a consumer get out of those laws? Nothing... Same way this law imposes so many rules that for smaller companies it just makes things harder while the big companies will pay and forget about it.
  - madez 9y ago
    > Torrent laws are used by lawyers and scamers to send out fines to random people and scam them for money, what does a consumer get out of those laws? Nothing... If you are a provider of internet access for example via WiFi, and you didn't collude with the users to breach the law, and you are sent a Abmahnung by a lawyer, then you can demand them to take back the Abmahnung including any financial demands after explaining to them said situation and making credible that you weren't exclusively using your internet access. You also don't need to investigate who was the perpetrator, and no ask no tell works. If the laywers don't step back, you can sue them with a Negative Feststellungsklage.
solarkraft 9y ago
Websites display cookie popups, therefore EU regulations are bad for individuals. All of these are different issues.

tremon 9y ago

my websites need to have full screen agreement popup for each 3rd party cookie Oh please. Please be factual even in your rants. For one, a single notice is quite enough. And secondly, it's not about cookies, but all forms of user tagging, including e.g. browser fingerprinting, which does not require any client-side data. Do you think think this will stop data collection and mining in anyway? I hope not. I really look forward to those massive fines.

mirko22 9y ago
Single notice doesn't make it better, and sorry if my phrasing is not the best. And it is about cookies too... What about massive fines for small companies? Large ones will pay and continue making money off your data while the small companies will go bust for even simple mistakes.

madez 9y ago

> These kinda a laws is why germany has no free wifi anywhere cos owner gets fined for anything that happens on his wifi... The law has changed. Since October 13th 2017 the owner of the internet access point is no longer responsible for what happens through his access as long as he doesn't collude with those, that do mischief with his access.

mirko22 9y ago
Yes, so do we have to have similar laws now and wait for them to backfire to take them away again? This law has seriously impacted WiFi availability in Germany for some time. Torrent laws are used by lawyers and scamers to send out fines to random people and scam them for money, what does a consumer get out of those laws? Nothing... Same way this law imposes so many rules that for smaller companies it just makes things harder while the big companies will pay and forget about it.
- madez 9y ago
  > Torrent laws are used by lawyers and scamers to send out fines to random people and scam them for money, what does a consumer get out of those laws? Nothing... If you are a provider of internet access for example via WiFi, and you didn't collude with the users to breach the law, and you are sent a Abmahnung by a lawyer, then you can demand them to take back the Abmahnung including any financial demands after explaining to them said situation and making credible that you weren't exclusively using your internet access. You also don't need to investigate who was the perpetrator, and no ask no tell works. If the laywers don't step back, you can sue them with a Negative Feststellungsklage.

solarkraft 9y ago

Websites display cookie popups, therefore EU regulations are bad for individuals. All of these are different issues.