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How senior are you? I would first spend some time hunting for innovative teams within Google to transfer to. There are plenty of boring jobs at Google but also

How senior are you? I would first spend some time hunting for innovative teams within Google to transfer to. There are plenty of boring jobs at Google but also plenty of ambitious small teams working on startup-like projects. Even cute experimental features on big established products (search/gmail/maps/drive/etc.) often could plausibly be the basis for an entire startup, but there are also some pie-in-the-sky projects people are working on if you look around a bit.

kj65557 9y ago
There might be some possibility for leadership but otherwise it's all CRUD operations and the complexity is in the business, not the tech.
- jmalicki 9y ago
  Why aren't you creating something interesting? Good careers don't go to those waiting to be handed a golden egg.. understand the business, understand innovative technology, and connect them, and the world will be your oyster. If management won't let you understand enough of the business to do so, I sympathize, I've been there. But if you're allowed to understand the business and are expecting someone else to come up with the innovation, you just need to get your shit together and be an engineer.
  - kj65557 9y ago
    I see what you mean, but getting approval to make changes is challenging in this particular department.
    - jmalicki 9y ago
      As Grace Hopper said, it's easier to ask for forgiveness than permission. That's generally a motto for people who get shit done.
    - jmalicki 9y ago
      Also, if you're not getting approval, maybe you need to work on connecting your ideas to business value a bit more...
      - kj65557 9y ago
        That's true. I'm still new to this org so things might change
    - UncleMeat 9y ago
      That's gonna be hard anywhere. Writing a proposal and convincing stakeholders is a skill to develop. It is never going to be trivial.
  - cyphunk 9y ago
    > Why aren't you creating something interesting? Good careers don't go to those waiting to be handed a golden egg. It sounds like you're implying that to work on innonvative projects one has to have the mind of an entrepreneur. While it's not a bad mind to have I don't think utilization of ones skills in a meaningful and interesting way should depend on that?
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- skypather 9y ago
  I think you expose yourself a bit too much. With this information, people would know who you are. At this point, I don't think you would like your boss/colleagues know you are asking this question here.
  - kj65557 9y ago
    Fixed, thanks
- odonnellryan 9y ago
  This is such a personal decision, but to me it seems like you're possibly looking for reasons to leave. If you like the business but don't like what you're doing, can that change soon? If this is the deciding factor, why not phrase it that way to whoever can make that decision? Nothing to lose ... If you just want to leave the company in general, than isn't your answer "yes?"

kj65557 9y ago

There might be some possibility for leadership but otherwise it's all CRUD operations and the complexity is in the business, not the tech.

jmalicki 9y ago
Why aren't you creating something interesting? Good careers don't go to those waiting to be handed a golden egg.. understand the business, understand innovative technology, and connect them, and the world will be your oyster. If management won't let you understand enough of the business to do so, I sympathize, I've been there. But if you're allowed to understand the business and are expecting someone else to come up with the innovation, you just need to get your shit together and be an engineer.
- kj65557 9y ago
  I see what you mean, but getting approval to make changes is challenging in this particular department.
  - jmalicki 9y ago
    As Grace Hopper said, it's easier to ask for forgiveness than permission. That's generally a motto for people who get shit done.
  - jmalicki 9y ago
    Also, if you're not getting approval, maybe you need to work on connecting your ideas to business value a bit more...
    - kj65557 9y ago
      That's true. I'm still new to this org so things might change
  - UncleMeat 9y ago
    That's gonna be hard anywhere. Writing a proposal and convincing stakeholders is a skill to develop. It is never going to be trivial.
- cyphunk 9y ago
  > Why aren't you creating something interesting? Good careers don't go to those waiting to be handed a golden egg. It sounds like you're implying that to work on innonvative projects one has to have the mind of an entrepreneur. While it's not a bad mind to have I don't think utilization of ones skills in a meaningful and interesting way should depend on that?
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skypather 9y ago
I think you expose yourself a bit too much. With this information, people would know who you are. At this point, I don't think you would like your boss/colleagues know you are asking this question here.
- kj65557 9y ago
  Fixed, thanks
odonnellryan 9y ago
This is such a personal decision, but to me it seems like you're possibly looking for reasons to leave. If you like the business but don't like what you're doing, can that change soon? If this is the deciding factor, why not phrase it that way to whoever can make that decision? Nothing to lose ... If you just want to leave the company in general, than isn't your answer "yes?"