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There's no point to these early Fuschia review attempts. I don't see how it demonstrates anything. It's like looking at the famous first email from Linus Torval
by Jesus_Jones 9y ago
There's no point to these early Fuschia review attempts. I don't see how it demonstrates anything. It's like looking at the famous first email from Linus Torvald and figuring out what the os would be in the end. So it boots, it has windows, but not apps, and prints some things to the screen. It tells us nothing about real intentions, future capabilities, etc.
- innagadadavida 9y agoI'm hoping it will be noticed by Linus and other Linux developers and help them address some of the shortcomings that Fuchsia aims to fix. It seems like this is how Google is exerting pressure on Linux to get what it wants...
- solarkraft 9y agoMaybe - but it doesn't seem to me like the Linux community as a whole cares much about what Google wants. And they don't have to: Google has their own capabilities to edit the kernel the way they want (they have done it before) or make their whole own kernel. I don't think they're trying to push Linux anywhere. Maybe they're trying to win over users from Linux, giving them some power in the software market & free contributions.
- ocdtrekkie 9y agoYeah, you can't "review" something that isn't even close to finished. Windows Phone was originally supposed to eschew apps for some sort of focus on views, I forget what they called it. Now Windows 10 Mobile is more or less just Windows 10, with apps. I won't mind if someone finally finds a new model and makes it not suck, but when you're early in the product design phase is when you try crazy ideas to see if they pan out, the final product ends up looking more normal.
- nxc18 9y agoWindows Phone 7 Series had the concept of hubs (e.g. People Hub). It was an innovative model, and having so much functionality built in eased the pain of missing or poor quality native apps for things like facebook/Twitter. It was helpful in an “information at your fingertips” sort of way, where everything was organized without solos between apps/platforms. Windows Phone 8.1 was the beginning of the end for hubs, with the OS feeling much more like iOS/Android, with winmo 10 basically killing it altogether. Curiously much of the hub functionality seems to be coming back to Windows proper. For example, see ‘People’ integration in the taskbar that shipped with Windows 10.
- empath75 9y agoIt's neat to see the progress even if you don't know where it's going. I wouldn't call it a 'review', though.
- zitterbewegung 9y agoIts sort of a "review" of an early preview. I think it demonstrates a lot especially what Fuchsia is and what it is capable of. The other point would be that Google gets free advertisements of their new OS.
- solarkraft 9y agoI don't think they really care about anyone knowing about it right now as a company, so the decision to open-source it right away confuses me a bit. Maybe it's a subtle signal of their plans/capabilities towards competitors/dart devs?
- goalieca 9y agoSo if the title was "Google Fuchsia early preview" then that would be fine.
- eddieh 9y agoThat seems rather pedantic. At this point I'm curious enough to watch these "reviews", but I don't care enough to try it myself. I happy reviewers are showing off the work, whatever they call it, review, sneak peak, preview.
- groby_b 9y agoAs somebody who read that famous first email and shared it around her lab: We were all tremendously excited, and spent days discussing it. This is the same thing - it's exciting. It's trying to do things many of us have thought of, but never worked on. It's new technology. It's something that, in our hearts, we want to succeed just because the alternatives are all grungy and dusty and carry the compatibility fixes of generations. Of course, if you don't really care about OS technology, or look at it from a consumer perspective, yeah, it's not giving you anything. But for engineers who care about OSs? This is amazing and invigorating.
- willtim 9y agoIt's all written in C++, so from a security and reliability perspective, I'm sketical it's going to offer much improvement over Linux. I don't see any evidence yet of "new technology". I'm happy to be proven wrong.
- mehrdadn 9y ago> It's all written in C++, so from a security and reliability perspective, I'm sketical it's going to offer much improvement over Linux. Are you an expert in C? or in C++?
- willtim 9y agoIt's not news to anyone that C/C++ puts the burden of security and safety onto the programmer. And it's getting harder all the time, see for example Spectre mitigation. C was designed alongside Unix in the 70's, a very different era. It is time for a next generation OS, but it needs to be built using next generation tooling.
- mehrdadn 9y ago> It is not news to anyone that C/C++ puts the burden of security and safety onto the programmer. Okay, so neither. Please consider reading these links. [1] [2] [1] http://qr.ae/TbSNZ8 http://qr.ae/TbSNZ8 [2] http://www.lb-stuff.com/cc http://www.lb-stuff.com/cc
- bitmapbrother 9y agoI disagree. It allows people that are interested in Fuchsia, but don't have the skills, time or hardware to build it, an opportunity to visually follow its progression.
- mempko 9y agoThere are already important signals here. 1. Your login is tied to your google account. Want to use the computer in any real capacity? Google account. 2. They think bringing back multi tasking from the 90s is important. 3. People will want to control their computer views. 4. They are making a new kernel. 5. They believe in the capabilities based security model. 6. They believe in micro kernels. 7. They don't have any NEW ideas yet (otherwise we would see them in early stages). Maybe they will come up with something, it's research right?
- retromario 9y agoI feel like just executing an old idea correctly is as worthwhile as coming up with something new.
- solarkraft 9y agoIt seems that the most useful OS/programming concepts have already been thought of, but all implementations are lacking in some ways, so I tend to agree.
- KirinDave 9y agoI don't agree. How is this not interesting? 1. This is an open development effort, that's interesting. 2. It's moving very quick. 3. the code is really interesting.