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Your thesis is 100% inconsistent with the history of food safety regulations. Sure, put the people in corporations personally liable without any government age

Your thesis is 100% inconsistent with the history of food safety regulations. Sure, put the people in corporations personally liable without any government agency inspecting. You're going to a society ten times more litigious than the US. People with no economic recourse to sue will get the short stick of things. Your proposition is beyond ridiculous, and that's what merits attacks on the profound naivete of libertarian approaches.

clarkmoody 9y ago
> Your thesis is 100% inconsistent with the history of food safety regulations. Source? > People with no economic recourse to sue will get the short stick of things. How is that different than now? > Your proposition is beyond ridiculous Say you, without providing any proposition of your own.
- Daishiman 9y ago
  Go google "history of food safety" yourself. C'mon.
ams6110 9y ago
> the profound naivete of libertarian approaches I'd generalize to the "profound naivete of utopian approaches"
- noir_lord 9y ago
  The old joke is "Communism is an amazing system, it's a shame no one has ever tried it" - in reference to the fact that Communism in places like the USSR wasn't really what the original proposers of it as an idea where suggesting. I think the same applies to libertarianism, it sounds good and clean but in reality human systems are like humans, messy chaotic and fickle. I think when it comes to regulation of a company you need the carrot and the stick, the carrot is "good PR and been seen to be a good corporate citizen that treats staff well results in betters sales" and the stick is "If you break the law their will be consequences and these are the laws". The problem with western markets (at least in my country (the UK)) is that we've moved away from the stick towards the US model of laissez-fair capitalism. Of course people then make the argument "Well the US model can't be that broken, it's the number one economy in the world" without considering the last century historically. The US is a massive economy but it also didn't get trashed in two world wars that nearly bankrupted it and was ideally placed to capitalize on them, it had all the advantages of the late industrial revolution/western civilization and vast amounts of resources. It would have been hard for it's economy not to succeed.
- specialist 9y ago
  Huh. Utopian == libertarian. Thank you for connecting those dots for me.

clarkmoody 9y ago

> Your thesis is 100% inconsistent with the history of food safety regulations. Source? > People with no economic recourse to sue will get the short stick of things. How is that different than now? > Your proposition is beyond ridiculous Say you, without providing any proposition of your own.

Daishiman 9y ago
Go google "history of food safety" yourself. C'mon.

ams6110 9y ago

> the profound naivete of libertarian approaches I'd generalize to the "profound naivete of utopian approaches"

noir_lord 9y ago
The old joke is "Communism is an amazing system, it's a shame no one has ever tried it" - in reference to the fact that Communism in places like the USSR wasn't really what the original proposers of it as an idea where suggesting. I think the same applies to libertarianism, it sounds good and clean but in reality human systems are like humans, messy chaotic and fickle. I think when it comes to regulation of a company you need the carrot and the stick, the carrot is "good PR and been seen to be a good corporate citizen that treats staff well results in betters sales" and the stick is "If you break the law their will be consequences and these are the laws". The problem with western markets (at least in my country (the UK)) is that we've moved away from the stick towards the US model of laissez-fair capitalism. Of course people then make the argument "Well the US model can't be that broken, it's the number one economy in the world" without considering the last century historically. The US is a massive economy but it also didn't get trashed in two world wars that nearly bankrupted it and was ideally placed to capitalize on them, it had all the advantages of the late industrial revolution/western civilization and vast amounts of resources. It would have been hard for it's economy not to succeed.
specialist 9y ago
Huh. Utopian == libertarian. Thank you for connecting those dots for me.