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Sort of misleading: Both Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 are still in extended support (https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/13853/windows-lifecycle-fact-sheet h

Sort of misleading: Both Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 are still in extended support (https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/13853/windows-lifecycle-fact-sheet https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/13853/windows-lifec...), and of course the older versions are no longer in extended support. So Windows 10 is the only version not yet in extended support.

tw04 9y ago
>So Windows 10 is the only version not yet in extended support. Given that MS has said they're moving away from major version numbers, it's not in any way misleading. Windows 10 will continue to get incremental updates into the indefinite future. MS has intimated it may be the last major version ever, although that's not a hard commitment.
- Silhouette 9y ago
  Windows 10 will continue to get incremental updates into the indefinite future. That's one way to look at it. Another is that Microsoft doesn't offer long-term support for their current OS any more, at least for those users who aren't enterprise-scale where the rules of the game seem to be somewhat different even with Windows 10.
  - extra88 9y ago
    Windows 10 Enterprise has the same 18 month service period for each feature update as Home and Pro. Only the LTSB editions, meant for embedded systems like ATMs and medical equipment, have the longer, traditional mainstream and extended support periods. https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/13853/windows-lifecycle-fact-sheet https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/13853/windows-lifec...
    - Silhouette 9y ago
      Microsoft can call Windows a service as much as it wants, but if problems start happening with newer builds of Win 10 Enterprise and million dollar customers start getting upset at losing security updates with their working systems after 18 months, Microsoft's position will surely change. The traditional "Pro" market don't have that luxury, because individually no small business or power user is significant enough to have meaningful leverage. This is what I mean by the rules of the game being different at enterprise level. Big customers might get Microsoft to change something they don't like, particularly if more than one or two feel the same way and start calling senior people at MS. Smaller customers only have the choice to put up with whatever Microsoft offers or to vote with their wallets and move to another platform.
- beojan 9y ago
  They haven't moved away from major version numbers, "Windows 10" is just the product name now (like Mac OS X used to be). The major version is "Fall Creators Update" etc (monthly updates provide the equivalent of minor versions).
  - extra88 9y ago
    Each semi-annual feature update, like Fall Creators Update, is only serviced for 18 months from date of release. They've been saying this for a while but the longer support dates were still published. On February 1st, I was reading Windows lifecycle fact sheet which listed Windows 10's mainstream support would end in 2020 and extended support would end in 2025. [0] However, less than a day later, that page has been updated and is very different. Most versions of Windows 10 are now listed by version number (corresponding to the semi-annual updates released so far) with end of service dates 18 months after release. Only the LTSB editions (which aren't supposed to receive feature updates anyway) have mainstream and extended support dates (the 2015. [0] https://web.archive.org/web/20180127173937/https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/13853/windows-lifecycle-fact-sheet https://web.archive.org/web/20180127173937/https://support.m... [1] https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/13853/windows-lifecycle-fact-sheet https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/13853/windows-lifec...
  - tw04 9y ago
    That's patently and provably false. "Creators update" is the same thing as a service pack, NOT a major revision. Major revisions as follows: Windows 10 29 July 2015 NT 10.0 Windows 8.1 17 October 2013 NT 6.3 Windows 8 26 October 2012 NT 6.2 Windows 7 22 October 2009 NT 6.1 Windows Vista 30 January 2007 NT 6.0 "Fall Creators Update" is version 10.0.16299
    - dingo_bat 9y ago
      Creator's update is nothing like a service pack of yore. A defining feature of service packs was that they didn't have any new feature. Only bug fixes and stability/security. Creator's update is a bigger upgrade from base Win10 than Win10 was from Win8, in terms of features.

tw04 9y ago

>So Windows 10 is the only version not yet in extended support. Given that MS has said they're moving away from major version numbers, it's not in any way misleading. Windows 10 will continue to get incremental updates into the indefinite future. MS has intimated it may be the last major version ever, although that's not a hard commitment.

Silhouette 9y ago
Windows 10 will continue to get incremental updates into the indefinite future. That's one way to look at it. Another is that Microsoft doesn't offer long-term support for their current OS any more, at least for those users who aren't enterprise-scale where the rules of the game seem to be somewhat different even with Windows 10.
- extra88 9y ago
  Windows 10 Enterprise has the same 18 month service period for each feature update as Home and Pro. Only the LTSB editions, meant for embedded systems like ATMs and medical equipment, have the longer, traditional mainstream and extended support periods. https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/13853/windows-lifecycle-fact-sheet https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/13853/windows-lifec...
  - Silhouette 9y ago
    Microsoft can call Windows a service as much as it wants, but if problems start happening with newer builds of Win 10 Enterprise and million dollar customers start getting upset at losing security updates with their working systems after 18 months, Microsoft's position will surely change. The traditional "Pro" market don't have that luxury, because individually no small business or power user is significant enough to have meaningful leverage. This is what I mean by the rules of the game being different at enterprise level. Big customers might get Microsoft to change something they don't like, particularly if more than one or two feel the same way and start calling senior people at MS. Smaller customers only have the choice to put up with whatever Microsoft offers or to vote with their wallets and move to another platform.
beojan 9y ago
They haven't moved away from major version numbers, "Windows 10" is just the product name now (like Mac OS X used to be). The major version is "Fall Creators Update" etc (monthly updates provide the equivalent of minor versions).
- extra88 9y ago
  Each semi-annual feature update, like Fall Creators Update, is only serviced for 18 months from date of release. They've been saying this for a while but the longer support dates were still published. On February 1st, I was reading Windows lifecycle fact sheet which listed Windows 10's mainstream support would end in 2020 and extended support would end in 2025. [0] However, less than a day later, that page has been updated and is very different. Most versions of Windows 10 are now listed by version number (corresponding to the semi-annual updates released so far) with end of service dates 18 months after release. Only the LTSB editions (which aren't supposed to receive feature updates anyway) have mainstream and extended support dates (the 2015. [0] https://web.archive.org/web/20180127173937/https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/13853/windows-lifecycle-fact-sheet https://web.archive.org/web/20180127173937/https://support.m... [1] https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/13853/windows-lifecycle-fact-sheet https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/13853/windows-lifec...
- tw04 9y ago
  That's patently and provably false. "Creators update" is the same thing as a service pack, NOT a major revision. Major revisions as follows: Windows 10 29 July 2015 NT 10.0 Windows 8.1 17 October 2013 NT 6.3 Windows 8 26 October 2012 NT 6.2 Windows 7 22 October 2009 NT 6.1 Windows Vista 30 January 2007 NT 6.0 "Fall Creators Update" is version 10.0.16299
  - dingo_bat 9y ago
    Creator's update is nothing like a service pack of yore. A defining feature of service packs was that they didn't have any new feature. Only bug fixes and stability/security. Creator's update is a bigger upgrade from base Win10 than Win10 was from Win8, in terms of features.