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New porn laws will mean Pornhub asks for your name and address
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- TwoNineA 9y ago10 Downing Street.
- ajeet_dhaliwal 9y agoYeah, I suspect Theresa May is going to ‘watching’ a lot of porn commencing April 2018.
- olivermarks 9y agoI wonder if they have ever heard of fake ID (or spoofed ip addresses)? Boris Johnson is going to be spending a million man hours a day on porn sites...
- RKearney 9y agoYou'd have a difficult time spoofing your IP address for a TCP connection (HTTPS).
- cm2187 9y agoWhat about VPNs?
- anfedorov 9y agoWhat about them?
- ZenoArrow 9y agoThey're useful for "spoofing your IP address".
- kelnos 9y agoThat's not IP spoofing, which actually has a well-defined meaning (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_address_spoofing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_address_spoofing). Using a VPN for this purpose is merely proxying your traffic through a third party who has promised not to tell the server on the other end who or where you are.
- anfedorov 9y agoNot in the context of impersonating Boris Johnson's IP they are not.
- eudoxus 9y agoI'm fairly convinced you just used on online technical jargon generator for 100% of this comment. There are a dozen ways to spoof your IP address for TCP/UDP/SCTP/DCCP/STP/DTP/etc. connection (Even HTTPS - Don t know why you feel this makes any difference whatsover). Like the other the comment has suggested VPN's are a very effective way to to such a task...really any proxy system in general, TOR works as well. Hell, just have a friend leave a RaspberryPi in his house would work and tunnel TCP over SSH to it... I'm going to use too many electrons informing you on the plethora of ways to spoof an IP address.
- throwaway2016a 9y agoI could be wrong but I think what you are describing is technically "masking" To me "spoofing" implies packet shaping. I tried to find a good definitive difference between the two and couldn't find one. So as I said, could definitely be wrong.
- eudoxus 9y agoI think its pretty fair to assume to comment was referring to the process of tricking a website into thinking you are at a different IP address then what is actually assigned by your ISP... :/
- RKearney 9y agoLet me clarify then. In order to connect to a remote machine (in this case, a website) your computer must make a TCP connection to the remote server. A TCP connection requires a three-way handshake to begin. This requires the sender (you) send a TCP SYN packet. If you "spoof" your IP address, the SYN ACK will never reach your machine, and you will therefore never be able to ACK back (with your "spoofed" IP). Because you never get this SYN ACK back with the servers initial sequence number, you will not be able to ACK back with the correct sequence number to even connect in the first place. I'm fairly convinced you don't know how basic networking principals work, or at least do not know the difference between spoofing and proxying.
- adventured 9y agoIt's fascinating to watch the British tolerate this bizarre puritanical fascist shift. The forced surveillance laws are not unexpected, that's going on in most of the developed world these days to one degree or another. The laws around porn are the part that I never would have expected. It seems like something the more extreme conservatives in the US would have cooked up.
- dragonwriter 9y ago> It seems like something the more extreme conservatives in the US would have cooked up. It sounds more like something the US did cook up back in the 90s; the Communications Decency Act in 1996 and then after the relevant part of that was struck down the Child Online Protection Act in 1998; similar age verification was widely adopted by adult sites in the US to avoid liability under these acts, in the brief time they were in force. Usually, credit card verification was used.
- nkkollaw 9y ago> Usually, credit card verification was used How convenient. That doesn't prove age at all. In fact, as a kid I'd steal my parent's credit card, but now that I'm an adult I don't own one. Go figure.
- dragonwriter 9y ago> How convenient. That doesn't prove age at all. That criticism was noted in a number of media outlets at the time; it probably would have eventually become a legal issue had the laws not been struck down, rendering it moot.
- adventured 9y agoAnd yet here we are. Hundreds of large porn sites in the US, requiring zero real verification. Age verification was never adopted by most of the major US porn sites. I was a teenager at the time, I never once had to age verify or provide a CC to use any of the large sites. The only thing most of those sites have ever required - if anything at all - going back to the 1990s, is a click or equivalent indicating you're over 18. Beyond that there were dozens of large US porn forums back then, facilitating downloading, none of which required age verification at any point either.
- mywittyname 9y agoI predict a surge in the popularity of pornography among British elderly women.
- gervase 9y agoIt is not clear to me from the article whether this is something which will be rolled out only to viewer from the UK, or to all viewers globally. If it's the latter, I think it will be received very dimly in countries with more-robust internet privacy regulations (or privacy-sensitive public sentiment) than what is currently the norm in the UK.
- nkkollaw 9y agoThey don't have to do it anywhere else, so they'll only do it in the UK. This is completely retarded. I'm not from the UK so it's fine, but do they really get paid to dream up this nonsense?
- dawhizkid 9y agoIt's 2018 and people are still using the word "retarded" as if it's not just as derogatory to people with intellectual/mental disabilities as the n-word is to black people.
- tanderson92 9y agoIt's not. The term also has scientific and mathematical uses separate and apart from its popular usage.
- dawhizkid 9y agoI'm specifically referring to the word's usage in the popular sense (as the the person replying used it), which is offensive.
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- x76sd685 9y agoTrigger warning!
- mrits 9y agoHow long before someone makes a chrome plugin that enters a random Brit's information each time?
- dhimes 9y agoRandom? I'd say something quite close to a member of Parliament :)
- speakeron 9y agoWell, that's a 'stimulating' site. It seems to be channeling the 1980s UK paper the Sunday Sport[1] (famous for its "World War 2 Bomber Found on the Moon" headline). My favourite line so far is: "He has been banned from every farm in Britain". I can't imagine what it looks like without an ad blocker. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunday_Sport https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunday_Sport
- fredley 9y agoThe Metro is a free paper given out in London (and elsewhere?). It's part of the same media group as the Daily Mail.
- bartkmq 9y agoWhat a terrible website. I first thought my ad blocker broke because the site was so visually overloaded. Turns out those are links to actual "articles" of this site. Seems like they are serious when they say "News... but not as you know it".
- zitterbewegung 9y agoThis sounds like fun. Step 1. Get the name and address of people who use your service. Step 2. You get hacked. Step 3. Everyone now gets to have their identify stolen and possibly blackmailed.
- davb 9y agoSeems like the thin edge of a thick wedge. First porn, then what next? Video games? Movies? Netflix? It seems like another data grab. I’ve not seen the technical specification but presumably porn sites will hold on to a verification token of some sort from the government ID database, which could then be used to correlate your viewing habits (at the porn site end) to your age verification request (and thus ID, at the government end). I imagine this will drive more and more people to use VPNs. I’ve got to assume someone involved in this has considered that. Maybe this is a prelude to banning VPNs in the UK? (“They’re only used by criminals and people trying to circumvent the age verification system”)?
- Edmond 9y agoAll the government backed approaches I have seen to this issue fail the privacy test. There is actually an approach that works without the massive privacy violation: https://www.cipheredtrust.com/doc/ https://www.cipheredtrust.com/doc/
- davb 9y agoTo piggyback on my own comment - another possibility is that every site or application with user generated content will eventually be subject to age verification. Meaning that all semblance of anonymous/pseudonymous participation online will disappear. Every username you have online will be tied back to a request token in the age verification database. Those reddit alts you use for porn, your Pornhub account, your LinkedIn, HackerNews, email.. all tied back to your passport.
- danjoc 9y agoWill Snapchat also be required to collect names and addresses?
- guiambros 9y agoNew source of income for spammers: forget about Nigerian scams or fishing emails trying to install malware: just use stolen porn databases and blackmail users directly. It's incredible that UK government really thought this was a good idea.
- amriksohata 9y agoStupid and pointless because everyone will move to other underground sites and mirrors that flout the rules, better for parents to use parental protection
- percival_krusen 9y agoUh, I wouldn't know myself, but my friend informs me that tons of pornography is available just through Google Image Search. Does the UK have a plan to block that, or to force Google to?
- lucozade 9y ago> Does the UK have a plan You could just have stopped there. They (the Government) don't. They're signalling. I'm sure they don't really care at all. This is just playing to the gallery. Or, at least, a specific segment of the gallery that generally votes Tory but has flirted with the likes of UKIP etc in the recent past.
- mindcrash 9y agoWaiting for the moment Labour and the Tories proudly announce they unite as the English Socialist Party [1], ban the monarchy and other political parties and rename Britain to Airstrip One [2]. Happening any day now. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingsoc https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingsoc [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nations_of_Nineteen_Eighty-Four#Oceania https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nations_of_Nineteen_Eighty-Fou...