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EDIT: NV always responds really fast to info requests but this one is taking a while. I specifically asked for reference letters with everything else. Who eve

by us0r 9y ago

EDIT: NV always responds really fast to info requests but this one is taking a while. I specifically asked for reference letters with everything else. Who ever filled in the info on the BOE meeting clearly lied. They've had a contract with another state and my guess is unhealthy. http://purchasing.nv.gov/uploadedFiles/purchasingnvgov/content/Bids/Documents/RFP3158a.pdf http://purchasing.nv.gov/uploadedFiles/purchasingnvgov/conte... They want something "cloud ready" yet acquired $600,000 of Oracle cloud licenses (what ever that is)? "The Department purchased and received Oracle hardware, Oracle Software, Network and security Hardware and Software, and the Oracle Cloud Software. The hardware is located in both the Department's Carson City and Las Vegas (Flamingo) server rooms. To-date, the purchase cost for hardware and software is $11,408,412. The cost breakdown is as follows: 1. Oracle Hardware - $3,000,000 2. Oracle Software - $5,900,000 3. Oracle Cloud Subscription - $618,000 4. Security-Network software and hardware - $1,890,412 Total Costs $11,408,412" http://budget.nv.gov/uploadedFiles/budgetnvgov/content/Meetings/Board_of_Examiners/2016/April_Complete.pdf http://budget.nv.gov/uploadedFiles/budgetnvgov/content/Meeti... Page 262. "This is a new contract to provide, design and implement a new system to replace the existing and aging client server application. The modernization of the current system will provide better customer service, reduce transaction processing time, increase speed-to-market of NV DMV products and services, enhance security and reduce system backlog" Very clever choice of words. I'll bet the board who approved that contract didn't know they signed a contract for nothing. From their own site: https://www.techmahindra.com/media/press_releases/TechMahindra-to-modernize-the-US-State-of-Nevada-Department-MotorVehicles.aspx https://www.techmahindra.com/media/press_releases/TechMahind... "The solution will be migrated to the Oracle technology stack" So they are going to migrate 4 years worth of Dynamics customizations (which aren't even working) to the Oracle technology stack. Right. No shit they didn't even show up.

tajen 9y ago
Is this decision so bad that it’s highlighting a potential red flag for a bribe between Oracle and managers of this company? « Probable cause » warrant investigations in other areas, wondering about this one.
- us0r 9y ago
  Personally I have no doubt someone has a job offer at oracle or two people are exchanging envelopes. If the vendor suggested Oracle maybe not but since it was someone at the DMV, 100%. I'm about 90% sure Oracle isn't even fully implemented in any DMV.
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inferiorhuman 9y ago
> They want something "cloud ready" yet acquired $600,000 of Oracle cloud licenses (what ever that is)? Chatting with a former coworker and apparently Oracle has their own (dysfunctional) cloud offering these days.
- megaman22 9y ago
  Yes indeed. I know a couple of Oracle salespeople, and they appear to be pushing it hard - they were giving insane incentive bonuses for selling cloud subscription signups until recently. Not sure that they're really making inroads though.
- sitharus 9y ago
  They even have a fleet of branded cars they drive around competitor's events to promote themselves: https://twitter.com/Oracle/status/935647345823309830 https://twitter.com/Oracle/status/935647345823309830 They promise to cut your Amazon bill in half. I guess they have scissors.
- thisisit 9y ago
  They have been using some ugly tactics to market it too: http://www.businessinsider.com/oracle-customer-explains-audit-threats-2015-9 http://www.businessinsider.com/oracle-customer-explains-audi... Quote from the article: Oracle has been threatening customers with big bills for software they're using but it says they haven't properly paid for, Craig Guarente, CEO of Oracle asset-management consultant Palisade Compliance, previously told Business Insider. Then Oracle makes the threat go away if the customer buys credits for cloud services, according to the consultant's description of the tactic.
- matwood 9y ago
  > Chatting with a former coworker and apparently Oracle has their own (dysfunctional) cloud offering these days. I think that's right. I keep getting emails from Oracle sales claiming they are going to save me tons of money if I move my cloud to workload to them. When has Oracle ever saved someone money?
toomuchtodo 9y ago
Well done sleuthing!

by us0r 9y ago

tajen 9y ago

Is this decision so bad that it’s highlighting a potential red flag for a bribe between Oracle and managers of this company? « Probable cause » warrant investigations in other areas, wondering about this one.

us0r 9y ago
Personally I have no doubt someone has a job offer at oracle or two people are exchanging envelopes. If the vendor suggested Oracle maybe not but since it was someone at the DMV, 100%. I'm about 90% sure Oracle isn't even fully implemented in any DMV.
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inferiorhuman 9y ago

> They want something "cloud ready" yet acquired $600,000 of Oracle cloud licenses (what ever that is)? Chatting with a former coworker and apparently Oracle has their own (dysfunctional) cloud offering these days.

megaman22 9y ago
Yes indeed. I know a couple of Oracle salespeople, and they appear to be pushing it hard - they were giving insane incentive bonuses for selling cloud subscription signups until recently. Not sure that they're really making inroads though.
sitharus 9y ago
They even have a fleet of branded cars they drive around competitor's events to promote themselves: https://twitter.com/Oracle/status/935647345823309830 https://twitter.com/Oracle/status/935647345823309830 They promise to cut your Amazon bill in half. I guess they have scissors.
thisisit 9y ago
They have been using some ugly tactics to market it too: http://www.businessinsider.com/oracle-customer-explains-audit-threats-2015-9 http://www.businessinsider.com/oracle-customer-explains-audi... Quote from the article: Oracle has been threatening customers with big bills for software they're using but it says they haven't properly paid for, Craig Guarente, CEO of Oracle asset-management consultant Palisade Compliance, previously told Business Insider. Then Oracle makes the threat go away if the customer buys credits for cloud services, according to the consultant's description of the tactic.
matwood 9y ago
> Chatting with a former coworker and apparently Oracle has their own (dysfunctional) cloud offering these days. I think that's right. I keep getting emails from Oracle sales claiming they are going to save me tons of money if I move my cloud to workload to them. When has Oracle ever saved someone money?

toomuchtodo 9y ago

Well done sleuthing!