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Someone should make a cryptocurrency social platform that rewards it's users for sharing content and attention. Like the steemit of facebook. Anyone know of an

Someone should make a cryptocurrency social platform that rewards it's users for sharing content and attention. Like the steemit of facebook. Anyone know of any projects like this?

wmf 9y ago
[deleted; I didn't read the parent carefully]
- downandout 9y ago
  Cynical much? This kind of response is one reason I rarely mention ideas on HN. They all seem to be met with instant criticism and/or suspicion.
pavel_lishin 9y ago
> rewards it's users for sharing content and attention You mean spamming content?
- mv4 9y ago
  It's possible to tell the difference between genuine, authentic sharing, and automation. Rewarding the right behavior will make spam go away.
  - Kalium 9y ago
    You're right! It's absolutely possible to tell the difference. And when it's known, bad behavior can be punished and good behavior rewarded. What do you think it takes to tell this difference with a high degree of reliability (>4 nines) at scale (>1000/s)? How about in an environment where people are strongly incentivized to find and exploit the weaknesses of your approach? Is it just maybe possible that this might not quite be handwave-it-away trivial? Facebook has had a shocking level of success in cutting down spam with their investments in punishing bad behavior and rewarding good behaviour. Thank you for your thoughts. You're completely correct! It's possible to tell the difference, and rewarding good behavior will drive out bad actors.
  - pavel_lishin 9y ago
    Either you're trusting the crowd to reward good content, which means that people will rapidly optimize for clickbait, or you need some sort of moderation, at which point you're just paying writers.
  - usrusr 9y ago
    Existing social media reward mechanisms are bad enough, they need to be weakened, not strengthened. Imagine you could use hn karma to pay at Wal-Mart - would you expect the quality of discussions here to go up or to go down? I think it would be disastrous.
dghughes 9y ago
That reminds me of the Web of Trust a browser add-on only without the actual monetary reward. I've never heard of steemit. edit: without not with
mv4 9y ago
building one now, called Ethertain will be publishing details in a week or two on http://www.ethertain.org/ http://www.ethertain.org/ not a social network though - more like "paypal for video", where you can send/request content, with proper verification
- untog 9y ago
  So... it's not what the OP was talking about all, then?
  - mv4 9y ago
    I was responding to the "reward users for sharing content ... and attention" part, just not as a social network. Those already have been established (one could argue YouTube is a good functional example of that), I don't anticipate much innovation happening there. But, the concept of content value, no matter where it resides, intrigues me.
sgspace 9y ago
Have you seen https://www.yours.org https://www.yours.org?
ddoolin 9y ago
You might be looking for Reddcoin? https://www.reddcoin.com/ https://www.reddcoin.com/
vthallam 9y ago
I am guessing that would be the future of the social networks. Yes, lord zuckerberg helps you be in touch with your friends and family, but makes a ton of money while selling your data(/metadata). A legitimate network which probably starts niche and share a token or a part of it for your activity would be a great start I guess.

Someone should make a cryptocurrency social platform that rewards it's users for sharing content and attention. Like the steemit of facebook. Anyone know of any projects like this?

wmf 9y ago

[deleted; I didn't read the parent carefully]

downandout 9y ago
Cynical much? This kind of response is one reason I rarely mention ideas on HN. They all seem to be met with instant criticism and/or suspicion.

pavel_lishin 9y ago

> rewards it's users for sharing content and attention You mean spamming content?

mv4 9y ago
It's possible to tell the difference between genuine, authentic sharing, and automation. Rewarding the right behavior will make spam go away.
- Kalium 9y ago
  You're right! It's absolutely possible to tell the difference. And when it's known, bad behavior can be punished and good behavior rewarded. What do you think it takes to tell this difference with a high degree of reliability (>4 nines) at scale (>1000/s)? How about in an environment where people are strongly incentivized to find and exploit the weaknesses of your approach? Is it just maybe possible that this might not quite be handwave-it-away trivial? Facebook has had a shocking level of success in cutting down spam with their investments in punishing bad behavior and rewarding good behaviour. Thank you for your thoughts. You're completely correct! It's possible to tell the difference, and rewarding good behavior will drive out bad actors.
- pavel_lishin 9y ago
  Either you're trusting the crowd to reward good content, which means that people will rapidly optimize for clickbait, or you need some sort of moderation, at which point you're just paying writers.
- usrusr 9y ago
  Existing social media reward mechanisms are bad enough, they need to be weakened, not strengthened. Imagine you could use hn karma to pay at Wal-Mart - would you expect the quality of discussions here to go up or to go down? I think it would be disastrous.

dghughes 9y ago

That reminds me of the Web of Trust a browser add-on only without the actual monetary reward. I've never heard of steemit. edit: without not with

mv4 9y ago

building one now, called Ethertain will be publishing details in a week or two on http://www.ethertain.org/ http://www.ethertain.org/ not a social network though - more like "paypal for video", where you can send/request content, with proper verification

untog 9y ago
So... it's not what the OP was talking about all, then?
- mv4 9y ago
  I was responding to the "reward users for sharing content ... and attention" part, just not as a social network. Those already have been established (one could argue YouTube is a good functional example of that), I don't anticipate much innovation happening there. But, the concept of content value, no matter where it resides, intrigues me.

sgspace 9y ago

Have you seen https://www.yours.org https://www.yours.org?

ddoolin 9y ago

You might be looking for Reddcoin? https://www.reddcoin.com/ https://www.reddcoin.com/

vthallam 9y ago

I am guessing that would be the future of the social networks. Yes, lord zuckerberg helps you be in touch with your friends and family, but makes a ton of money while selling your data(/metadata). A legitimate network which probably starts niche and share a token or a part of it for your activity would be a great start I guess.