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I am happy to see this issue getting so much attention outside of tech circles. Apple has mostly gotten a pass for their anti-consumer behavior recently and I h
by pxeboot 9y ago
I am happy to see this issue getting so much attention outside of tech circles. Apple has mostly gotten a pass for their anti-consumer behavior recently and I hope the negative publicity from this forces them to improve things.
- oneplane 9y agoI'm not sure how this (badly) communicated feature is 'anti-consumer'. It is practical power management at its finest and all other phone makers can learn from it.
- lostmsu 9y agoIts a hardware bug, not a software "feature"
- oneplane 9y agoIs it? There is no lithium battery out there that doesn't have a discharge slope that just falls off at the edge under high load. The alternatives are: - stop powering the device when the charge gets into the zone where sudden dropouts might happen (i.e. lose about 5% capacity) - accept sudden dropouts and have users experience devices that suddenly fail (i.e. lose about 5% of their useful charge since you can no longer depend on the device being on)
- nielsbot 9y agoWhat anti-consumer behavior have they gotten a pass on?
- slivanes 9y agoLack of common ports on MacBook Pro requiring extra (paid) dongle hardware to make it similar in function to previous generation. Apple led the way on lack of repairability and expandability on their devices. Sadly other manufacturers slowly followed suit. You likely need to turn off iMessage if you migrate to a non-Apple phone to get SMS or text messages someone sends you from an iPhone. Locking certain iOS functionality away from 3rd parties - preventing browsers such as Chrome from using said functionality that Safari enjoys. Want more?
- unethical_ban 9y agoRegulators shouldn't give a damn about 1 and 3. 2 and 4 are suspect.
- TeMPOraL 9y agoThey shouldn't, but they have to. Noone else will.
- icebraining 9y agoIf no one gives a damn, why have they?
- TeMPOraL 9y agoSorry: no one else with power to make it right gives a damn. Why they? Because that's their job - to help individuals coordinate at scale.
- unethical_ban 9y agoTo be clear: 1 and 3 are not a risk to consumers; they are merely an inconvenience.
- pc86 9y ago> You likely need to turn off iMessage if you migrate to a non-Apple phone to get SMS or text messages someone sends you from an iPhone. This is the most damning one. I recently (6 months ago?) switched to Android and I still have friends who cannot send me text messages. They're non-technical and unless I'm sitting in a room with them will not be able to walk them through the process. They have to do something, I can't do it on my end. So now I have a handful of friends with whom my only method of contact is FB messenger.
- nielsbot 9y agoYou can deregister your number online: https://selfsolve.apple.com/deregister-imessage/ https://selfsolve.apple.com/deregister-imessage/
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- signal11 9y agoIt's ironic that Apple, which provides regular software updates, is being scrutinized while it appears Google and other Android vendors -- whose track record on updates is very spotty -- get a free pass. To avoid a case of 'no good deed goes unpunished', I do hope Samsung, Google and co get some attention over lack of updates for older phones/OSes too. Their approach of not updating perfectly good phones just leads to greater e-waste, not to mention wasting consumer dollars.
- MBCook 9y agoWell, Apple is the company that had to settle a case with the DOJ because they dared to be a party to people breaking Amazon’s ebook monopoly. A downright scummy company. /s
- pc86 9y agoWhat is "e-waste" and how is it different than regular waste? Has Samsung, Google et al provided any clarification on why particular phones do not receive updates?
- Retric 9y agoUnlike most things, electronics are fairly toxic and should not be disposed of by throwing them in the regular trash.
- saagarjha 9y ago> Has Samsung, Google et al provided any clarification on why particular phones do not receive updates? Probably because they don't want to spend time supporting these devices?
- scintill76 9y agoNo updates might actually be better than forced (practically? I don't use iOS) updates that make your device less desirable to you, and can't be undone. It's more fair and conceivable that Apple should be forced to meet certain standards for updates they choose to release, than for any manufacturer to be forced to make updates for some arbitrary/indefinite period of time.
- MBCook 9y agoStopping people’s phones from randomly shutting off is anti-consumer? Of all the things Apple has been accused of over the years this seems like one of the most clear-cut examples where they didn’t do anything wrong. You want to make political points? Go after them for iTunes, the App Store, something else. Somewhere where you have a leg to stand on. “Your honor, they tried to cause the phones of the American people to be more reliable! I demand justice!”
- craftyguy 9y ago> Stopping people’s phones from randomly shutting off is anti-consumer? Funny thing is, I've owned non-Apple phones for years and I've never had any "randomly shut off." If you pay half attention to the battery capacity icon and/or warnings the devices gives you, any 'shutting off' due to no more battery charge will not be random.
- basch 9y agoit's not about "no more battery" its about peak cpu usage drawing too much power instantaneously. all apple did was cap peak power draw in the power drivers. this prevents data loss. it's a good feature if designed correctly.
- lostmsu 9y agoHow about a recall?
- snowwrestler 9y agoWhy? Because Li-Po batteries don't maintain their peak performance forever? Maybe Ford should recall their cars because the tires eventually wear out?
- lostmsu 9y agoIt would have to if they would wear out during manufacturer's warranty.