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can I ssh into it? does it have a public ip?

by wklm 9y ago

thesandlord 9y ago
If you want a free Linux box with a Public IP and SSH, I'd recommend spinning up an f1-micro VM. It's part of the permanent free tier: https://cloud.google.com/free/ https://cloud.google.com/free/ Cloud Shell is a "temporary" instance, really meant for interactive Dev/Admin work. (I work for GCP)
- e12e 9y ago
  Thanks for taking the time to comment. I wasn't aware there was a free tier. I really appreciate that it's an actual free tier: "Thanks for signing up for the 12-month free trial. We've given you $300 in free trial credit to spend. If you run out of credit, don't worry, you won't be billed until you give your permission." [ed: and as mentioned above there are instances that don't consume any of those 300 credits]
  - thesandlord 9y ago
    So there is the free trial and the free tier. The free trial is $300 for 12 months that you can spend on pretty much anything (I think there are some limits on GPUs due to abuse). The free tier is free forever, no dollar limits or time limits. This includes the 24/7 f1-micro, 28 App Engine hours per day, Cloud Datastore, Firebase stuff, some Cloud Functions, etc.
    - devereaux 9y ago
      In the free tier, is it "fair game" to run 10 instances of the f1-micro? I would like to test the throughput, measure uptime over a few months, and check how well it handles DDOS. I would configure 10x static IPv4 and IPv6 to make sure it does not impact anyone else. I plan to setup a nginx serving a few static pages with a Round Robin DNS on a subdomain.
      - thesandlord 9y ago
        Free trial, yes. Free tier, no. Basically the free tier subtracts the cost of a f1-micro from your monthly bill if you have at least one running.
        devereaux 9y ago
        Thanks for the precision! It avoids a bad surprise :-) Do you know if a f1-micro can cost more than $4 per month if it is used extensively? By that, I just mean 100% cpu usage, 100% of the 5Gb disk quota, with just 1 IPv4 and 1 IPv6. I like the scalability, but I want my clients to know that their bill will not "fluctuate". Cost-wise, $40 for 10 IPv4 is in the upper tier (some OVH resellers give you 16 IPv4 on some decent dedicated server) but for what I need (low latency), the wide geographic coverage could still make it worthwhile.
        SirZimzim 9y ago
        If your cost requirements are that low and you primarily want to rely on static instances then there are better hosting options. I remember when my firm switched and we now pay thousands of dollars for the flexibility of cloud providers.
        thesandlord 9y ago
        Network Egress is not included in the price, so you have to keep that in mind. Ingress is free. Otherwise, feel free to use 100% 24/7.
  - iamdave 9y ago
    I wasn't aware there was a free tier. I really appreciate that it's an actual free tier: Neither was I, agreed! Thank you for sharing, now I can actually test a few services to see if it makes sense migrating some of our microservices (or probably better stated: nanoservices) to gCloud that are currently running on expensive bare metal (wasn't my call, I'm just trying to get us to modernize).
- mcsb1 9y ago
  Quick feedback: it's the first time that I have looked into GCP and compared to AWS the UX is by far sub standard. Even with $300 credits I am not tempted to make use of it.
  - kyrra 9y ago
    Would you be able to expand on your thoughts here? If there are specific elements that are bothering you, click the"..." In the top right of the cloud console and "Send Feedback" with specific issues.
- mehrdadn 9y ago
  Ugh, as soon as I signed up I got locked out of Google Payments due to "fraud protection"... when I used the same computer I always use and the same credit card number as I've used before without any problems. I have no clue what is going on, but come on guys... nobody's going to want to trade in a government issued ID to exchange for a "free" VM.
  - kyrra 9y ago
    Consider contacting Google cloud or payment support people. Also maybe check with your credit card company to see how they responded to any payment request from Google.
    - mehrdadn 9y ago
      Payment request...? Didn't they say there is no charge unless and until you affirm that you want to pay?
      - jlgaddis 9y ago
        No idea, but if you entered a credit card number I'm gonna guess they did a pre-auth for $1 or something like that to verify it's valid.
- Shoothe 9y ago
  Is there a way to use permanent free tier f1-micro without also triggering free trial 12 month? I don't want to use free trial right now but would want to test f1-micro.

can I ssh into it? does it have a public ip?

by wklm 9y ago

can I ssh into it? does it have a public ip?

If you want a free Linux box with a Public IP and SSH, I'd recommend spinning up an f1-micro VM. It's part of the permanent free tier: https://cloud.google.com/free/ https://cloud.google.com/free/ Cloud Shell is a "temporary" instance, really meant for interactive Dev/Admin work. (I work for GCP)

e12e 9y ago
Thanks for taking the time to comment. I wasn't aware there was a free tier. I really appreciate that it's an actual free tier: "Thanks for signing up for the 12-month free trial. We've given you $300 in free trial credit to spend. If you run out of credit, don't worry, you won't be billed until you give your permission." [ed: and as mentioned above there are instances that don't consume any of those 300 credits]
- thesandlord 9y ago
  So there is the free trial and the free tier. The free trial is $300 for 12 months that you can spend on pretty much anything (I think there are some limits on GPUs due to abuse). The free tier is free forever, no dollar limits or time limits. This includes the 24/7 f1-micro, 28 App Engine hours per day, Cloud Datastore, Firebase stuff, some Cloud Functions, etc.
  - devereaux 9y ago
    In the free tier, is it "fair game" to run 10 instances of the f1-micro? I would like to test the throughput, measure uptime over a few months, and check how well it handles DDOS. I would configure 10x static IPv4 and IPv6 to make sure it does not impact anyone else. I plan to setup a nginx serving a few static pages with a Round Robin DNS on a subdomain.
    - thesandlord 9y ago
      Free trial, yes. Free tier, no. Basically the free tier subtracts the cost of a f1-micro from your monthly bill if you have at least one running.
      - devereaux 9y ago
        Thanks for the precision! It avoids a bad surprise :-) Do you know if a f1-micro can cost more than $4 per month if it is used extensively? By that, I just mean 100% cpu usage, 100% of the 5Gb disk quota, with just 1 IPv4 and 1 IPv6. I like the scalability, but I want my clients to know that their bill will not "fluctuate". Cost-wise, $40 for 10 IPv4 is in the upper tier (some OVH resellers give you 16 IPv4 on some decent dedicated server) but for what I need (low latency), the wide geographic coverage could still make it worthwhile.
        SirZimzim 9y ago
        If your cost requirements are that low and you primarily want to rely on static instances then there are better hosting options. I remember when my firm switched and we now pay thousands of dollars for the flexibility of cloud providers.
        thesandlord 9y ago
        Network Egress is not included in the price, so you have to keep that in mind. Ingress is free. Otherwise, feel free to use 100% 24/7.
- iamdave 9y ago
  I wasn't aware there was a free tier. I really appreciate that it's an actual free tier: Neither was I, agreed! Thank you for sharing, now I can actually test a few services to see if it makes sense migrating some of our microservices (or probably better stated: nanoservices) to gCloud that are currently running on expensive bare metal (wasn't my call, I'm just trying to get us to modernize).
mcsb1 9y ago
Quick feedback: it's the first time that I have looked into GCP and compared to AWS the UX is by far sub standard. Even with $300 credits I am not tempted to make use of it.
- kyrra 9y ago
  Would you be able to expand on your thoughts here? If there are specific elements that are bothering you, click the"..." In the top right of the cloud console and "Send Feedback" with specific issues.
mehrdadn 9y ago
Ugh, as soon as I signed up I got locked out of Google Payments due to "fraud protection"... when I used the same computer I always use and the same credit card number as I've used before without any problems. I have no clue what is going on, but come on guys... nobody's going to want to trade in a government issued ID to exchange for a "free" VM.
- kyrra 9y ago
  Consider contacting Google cloud or payment support people. Also maybe check with your credit card company to see how they responded to any payment request from Google.
  - mehrdadn 9y ago
    Payment request...? Didn't they say there is no charge unless and until you affirm that you want to pay?
    - jlgaddis 9y ago
      No idea, but if you entered a credit card number I'm gonna guess they did a pre-auth for $1 or something like that to verify it's valid.
Shoothe 9y ago
Is there a way to use permanent free tier f1-micro without also triggering free trial 12 month? I don't want to use free trial right now but would want to test f1-micro.