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> If they actually wanted to make change, they would have explicitly said “without adhesive” or “consumer is able to open without specialized tools.” This is no

by zkms 9y ago

> If they actually wanted to make change, they would have explicitly said “without adhesive” or “consumer is able to open without specialized tools.” This is no more than posturing. They could also target availability of repair parts and tools (both the software kind and the electromechanical kind) rather than dictating design constraints.

sitkack 9y ago
Where I think Apple ran afoul of what I _think_ this law is proposing is in using pentalobe screws to keep the phone shut. Once opened, an iPhone battery is pretty easy to replace. edit, read article, but not the bill. What I understand is it isn't just about being able to technically repair (ebay, iFixit, etc) but in Apple aggressively trying to prevent third parties from having legitimate access to spare parts, manuals, etc. One common and frustrating thing that manufactures of pinball games do is using rivets to adhere the heat sync tab with the circuit board, this requires drilling out the rivet. Doable, but a pain in the ass, esp when their design forgoes fuses for "fiscally resetable thermal transistors" Magic smoke makes them magic money.
- akvadrako 9y ago
  But generally when you order a new battery from aliexpress or whatever, it comes with a proper screwdriver. So it just serves to increase costs about $.20 while creating a barrier to opening a fragile device.
userbinator 9y ago
They could also target availability of repair parts and tools (both the software kind and the electromechanical kind) rather than dictating design constraints. More critically, repair information. Schematics and service manuals for Apple products get leaked pretty easily, and similarly for a lot of other products (notably laptops), but that's only because of largely lax security. Compare this to the early computers (like the IBM PC) which came with the full set of schematics as well as things like BIOS source code.
- JdeBP 9y ago
  > More critically, repair information. You might want to read the actual bill, rather than the news article. Clue: section 3.

by zkms 9y ago

sitkack 9y ago

Where I think Apple ran afoul of what I _think_ this law is proposing is in using pentalobe screws to keep the phone shut. Once opened, an iPhone battery is pretty easy to replace. edit, read article, but not the bill. What I understand is it isn't just about being able to technically repair (ebay, iFixit, etc) but in Apple aggressively trying to prevent third parties from having legitimate access to spare parts, manuals, etc. One common and frustrating thing that manufactures of pinball games do is using rivets to adhere the heat sync tab with the circuit board, this requires drilling out the rivet. Doable, but a pain in the ass, esp when their design forgoes fuses for "fiscally resetable thermal transistors" Magic smoke makes them magic money.

akvadrako 9y ago
But generally when you order a new battery from aliexpress or whatever, it comes with a proper screwdriver. So it just serves to increase costs about $.20 while creating a barrier to opening a fragile device.

userbinator 9y ago

They could also target availability of repair parts and tools (both the software kind and the electromechanical kind) rather than dictating design constraints. More critically, repair information. Schematics and service manuals for Apple products get leaked pretty easily, and similarly for a lot of other products (notably laptops), but that's only because of largely lax security. Compare this to the early computers (like the IBM PC) which came with the full set of schematics as well as things like BIOS source code.

JdeBP 9y ago
> More critically, repair information. You might want to read the actual bill, rather than the news article. Clue: section 3.