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Ladies and Gentlemen, the rule of law at work. I think breaking the Boeing/Airbus duopoly has to be a good thing in the long run.

markvdb 9y ago
Only because of this Boeing pressure, Bombardier sold its Cseries to Airbus. So no breaking the duopoly for now until the Chinese start building competitors to the A320 or the 737...
- gumby 9y ago
  did they? My understanding is that they in effect sold the us market only (planes elsewhere would be made in B's factories) though I could be misremembering.
  - notatoad 9y ago
    Planes for other markets might be made in bombardier's factory, but they airbus owns a majority stake in the c-series program since the us tariffs went into place.
- Coincoin 9y ago
  Sold? They gave it away: 51% for $0.
  - tankenmate 9y ago
    In return for non cash consideration.
- hinkley 9y ago
  Mitsubishi is trying to break in, with a 90 passenger regional jet. They did work on the wings of the 787. I think they have a shot, but they seem to be having problems with execution.
soperj 9y ago
The U.S commerce dept recommendation in the first place made Bombardier do a deal with Airbus. So...
ggm 9y ago
emraer, comac, bombadier. who, in different spaces, do JV with either of Boeing or Airbus when it suits (I believe) I should declare I'm a partisan for Airbus, because it bears noting that every Boeing whine, about unfair competition has been put back in its box: Seattle thinks it owns the business and has to be told to stop.
- deleted 9y ago
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- seanmcdirmid 9y ago
  Boeing is headquartered in Chicago.
  - parent5446 9y ago
    The parent company is, but Boeing Commercial Airplanes, the subsidiary that does commercial jets, is headquartered in Washington. Their ginormous production warehouse is also outside of Seattle.
    - kgwgk 9y ago
      For additional context, they moved headquarters in 2001 (a few years after merging with St. Louis based McDonnell Douglas in 1997): “The company shocked Seattle--and much of corporate America--by announcing in March that it is moving its headquarters out of the city where William Boeing created the company 85 years ago, making it synonymous with aircraft manufacturing. “The move, Boeing said at the time, is part of a reorganization to give more independence to its three core businesses--commercial airplanes in the Seattle area, military jets and missiles in St. Louis and space and communications business in Southern California.” http://articles.latimes.com/2001/may/10/business/fi-61490 http://articles.latimes.com/2001/may/10/business/fi-61490
  - ggm 9y ago
    I have no doubt that almost any industrial concern you care to name headquarters elsewhere than the colloquial locale. Does it alter the point being made where it works and where decisions are made? If I said airbus decides in Toulouse will you point out where the board actually meets?

markvdb 9y ago

Only because of this Boeing pressure, Bombardier sold its Cseries to Airbus. So no breaking the duopoly for now until the Chinese start building competitors to the A320 or the 737...

gumby 9y ago
did they? My understanding is that they in effect sold the us market only (planes elsewhere would be made in B's factories) though I could be misremembering.
- notatoad 9y ago
  Planes for other markets might be made in bombardier's factory, but they airbus owns a majority stake in the c-series program since the us tariffs went into place.
Coincoin 9y ago
Sold? They gave it away: 51% for $0.
- tankenmate 9y ago
  In return for non cash consideration.
hinkley 9y ago
Mitsubishi is trying to break in, with a 90 passenger regional jet. They did work on the wings of the 787. I think they have a shot, but they seem to be having problems with execution.

soperj 9y ago

The U.S commerce dept recommendation in the first place made Bombardier do a deal with Airbus. So...

ggm 9y ago

emraer, comac, bombadier. who, in different spaces, do JV with either of Boeing or Airbus when it suits (I believe) I should declare I'm a partisan for Airbus, because it bears noting that every Boeing whine, about unfair competition has been put back in its box: Seattle thinks it owns the business and has to be told to stop.

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seanmcdirmid 9y ago
Boeing is headquartered in Chicago.
- parent5446 9y ago
  The parent company is, but Boeing Commercial Airplanes, the subsidiary that does commercial jets, is headquartered in Washington. Their ginormous production warehouse is also outside of Seattle.
  - kgwgk 9y ago
    For additional context, they moved headquarters in 2001 (a few years after merging with St. Louis based McDonnell Douglas in 1997): “The company shocked Seattle--and much of corporate America--by announcing in March that it is moving its headquarters out of the city where William Boeing created the company 85 years ago, making it synonymous with aircraft manufacturing. “The move, Boeing said at the time, is part of a reorganization to give more independence to its three core businesses--commercial airplanes in the Seattle area, military jets and missiles in St. Louis and space and communications business in Southern California.” http://articles.latimes.com/2001/may/10/business/fi-61490 http://articles.latimes.com/2001/may/10/business/fi-61490
- ggm 9y ago
  I have no doubt that almost any industrial concern you care to name headquarters elsewhere than the colloquial locale. Does it alter the point being made where it works and where decisions are made? If I said airbus decides in Toulouse will you point out where the board actually meets?