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Thunderbird is a popular mail client that has at times had a pretty uncertain future. I imagine that azdle posted this less as a notification of a job listing a

Thunderbird is a popular mail client that has at times had a pretty uncertain future. I imagine that azdle posted this less as a notification of a job listing and more as a sign that Thunderbird is going to stick around and evolve. That's the difference.

jordigh 9y ago
I see. Those things, except for the popularity, also apply to Mailpile. I guess that's the big difference.
- tkone 9y ago
  The Mozilla foundation is also a registered 501(c)(3). Is Mailpile? I don't see anything about that on your page?
  - jordigh 9y ago
    No, Mailpile isn't a charity. But the Mozilla foundation isn't the one fronting money for this job, is it? Doesn't that money come from the Mozilla Corporation? Hm, the job ad says that MoFo is the fiscal home, but the candidate will be hired via UpWork. I'm really a bit confused about how money flows around Mozilla.
    - buovjaga 9y ago
      The money does not come from Corp, TB is moving away from Corp infrastructure. The money comes from donations: https://blog.mozilla.org/thunderbird/2017/05/thunderbirds-future-home/ https://blog.mozilla.org/thunderbird/2017/05/thunderbirds-fu...
      - pbhjpbhj 9y ago
        >The money comes from donations // The money presumably came from selling FF users to Google but Mozilla Corp decided spending on TB was wasting money. Whose driving this at Mozilla Corp? Seems like a sea-change to very money & business orientated position, like Mozilla's is basically being privatised and unprofitable (in the financial sense) parts are being ditched. The "Key Issues" of the Mozilla Foundation (https://www.mozilla.org/en-GB/foundation/issues/ https://www.mozilla.org/en-GB/foundation/issues/) appear to fit well with providing a FOSS email client, as otherwise people are going to go with Google/MS/Apple primarily which moves email in a way that contradicts the aims laid out there. [Interesting that the Mozilla Foundation use Google for hosting files (eg https://mzl.la/foundation-strategy https://mzl.la/foundation-strategy), seems a bit contradictory.]

jordigh 9y ago

I see. Those things, except for the popularity, also apply to Mailpile. I guess that's the big difference.

tkone 9y ago
The Mozilla foundation is also a registered 501(c)(3). Is Mailpile? I don't see anything about that on your page?
- jordigh 9y ago
  No, Mailpile isn't a charity. But the Mozilla foundation isn't the one fronting money for this job, is it? Doesn't that money come from the Mozilla Corporation? Hm, the job ad says that MoFo is the fiscal home, but the candidate will be hired via UpWork. I'm really a bit confused about how money flows around Mozilla.
  - buovjaga 9y ago
    The money does not come from Corp, TB is moving away from Corp infrastructure. The money comes from donations: https://blog.mozilla.org/thunderbird/2017/05/thunderbirds-future-home/ https://blog.mozilla.org/thunderbird/2017/05/thunderbirds-fu...
    - pbhjpbhj 9y ago
      >The money comes from donations // The money presumably came from selling FF users to Google but Mozilla Corp decided spending on TB was wasting money. Whose driving this at Mozilla Corp? Seems like a sea-change to very money & business orientated position, like Mozilla's is basically being privatised and unprofitable (in the financial sense) parts are being ditched. The "Key Issues" of the Mozilla Foundation (https://www.mozilla.org/en-GB/foundation/issues/ https://www.mozilla.org/en-GB/foundation/issues/) appear to fit well with providing a FOSS email client, as otherwise people are going to go with Google/MS/Apple primarily which moves email in a way that contradicts the aims laid out there. [Interesting that the Mozilla Foundation use Google for hosting files (eg https://mzl.la/foundation-strategy https://mzl.la/foundation-strategy), seems a bit contradictory.]