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If you want something from someone you ask it politely. If you produce BS, you get told you produce BS. I'm guessing it's a cultural thing I'm also guessing you
by teekert 9y ago
If you want something from someone you ask it politely. If you produce BS, you get told you produce BS. I'm guessing it's a cultural thing I'm also guessing you are an American. Americans coming here often tell us we are very direct and it takes getting used to. We often tell Americans we prefer they speak their mind and don't pretend something is great or we are best friends when it isn't the case. I'm from the Netherlands but I'm guessing Linus has his Finnish roots showing from time to time.
Honestly, it's nice in the US to have waiters/waitresses that are nice, it feels insincere but I prefer it greatly to the sometimes outright moody waiters here. It's a culturing thing as well.
If Intel would be sincere, they would just admin they produced BS (Linus is the best person to call BS on such patches) and apologize to Linus for wasting his time and ask how he would like to see the patches.
- watwut 9y ago1.) I am not American. I am also not talking about Torwalds, because as far as I know Linus did not explicitly demanded to be spoken to "politely" (afaik). 2.) Talking politely and talking directly are orthogonal categories. You can be impolite while not direct and also polite while being direct. 3.) An environment in which people just speak their minds and is ok with people being impolite when those feel like it is characterized by everyone speaking is mind or being impolite, not just your hero. Meaning, you will not put emphasis on "be polite" when someone you dont like asks for something. 3.) I am pointing out the difference between how people who are not Torwalds demand that you talk to mailing list and what they defend as "good way to communicate" by people they admire. Because actual openly speaking culture is symmetric.
- brynjolf 9y agoBoring. Heard it all before.
- watwut 9y agoIs that supposed to mean that you agree, that you think everyone agrees or that you disagree for reason you refuse to say?
- marcosdumay 9y agoI guess he's going for the indirect, impolite, with low information density option.
- jechamt 9y agoI've identified recursion in my reaction to this comment