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This is the best "we're hiring" image ever drawn
- c1sc0 16y agoMost relevant bit for geeks: "Build/buy your dream computer." Another good way to measure the quality of a job posting would be "root on your box", I don't understand why so many companies are reluctant to do this.
- eru 16y agoIf you are in a company that does not allow it, at least get them to install VirtualBox or some other virtualisation program. (Or quit. But I understand real life is made of compromises.)
- devmonk 16y agoBuuuuut iiiiittttsss sssoooooooo ssssllloooooooowwww. Seriously- we have root on box, but thought we'd be smart by doing OS X and just use VMWare Fusion for Win and Linux emu. VMWare is awesome to have available, but they would have easily saved money by buying us an additional box or two to run Windows for the IE testing. Anything that slows a developer down is wasting not only the time they lost waiting, but in flow interrupt and the morale and excitement level dropping. Also, even better would have been to additionally hire some resource(s) to focus on CI and QA, and maybe the QA resource could have worried about IE. ;) j/k
- IgorPartola 16y agoAt my previous job I had a 4 core Intel processor + 4GB RAM. Ubuntu as host and I regularly ran 3 guest Windows instances at once without any slowdowns. I guess it depends on how you do things: the host OS only really ran a terminal emulator + vim. Maybe it would have been different if I had a GUI IDE...
- barrkel 16y agoI generally find the quality of multiprocessing in the guest OS is not good; nor is accelerated graphics. Most VMs are ok if all you need is single proc non visual performance, though. Disk IO is often poor too.
- cschep 16y agoAn SSD + 4 cores made the difference for me to finally move my Linux "box" into a VM and not look back. But again, I'm also just doing terminals, vim, and Chrome.
- barrkel 16y agoI have an SSD, 8 cores, 12 GB RAM etc., but trying to get processes in the guest OS to scale across multiple cores is very much an uphill battle. VMWare's dual-core emulation was actually worse than single processor for my uses cases.
- eru 16y agoYes, scheduling on multiple virtual processors is still not really a solved problem.
- rumpelstiltskin 16y agoBuild/buy your dream computer. What's the limit tho?
- varjag 16y agoSince they used computer in singular, you probably can't build a cluster.
- rumpelstiltskin 16y agoSorry, I meant price.
- heresy 16y agoThis really is a cheap way to get developer goodwill. I cannot understand companies who pay developers 90k+ and then make them work on shitty "business desktop" machines that haven't been updated for 5 years or longer. Sadly this is rather common. My work machine is better specced than my home machine at my current employer, which is a first. OC'd Core i7, SLI video, SSD OS disk + 10K RPM data disk...I hardly ever wait for the machine to catch up.
- HSO 16y agoIt's not just developers or geeks. I actually quit a job in the financial industry a while ago as soon as I got other money coming in because I was too pissed with their drone environment: outdated HP boxes, Win XP, Matlab, Excel/Office etc. I'm not saying these are generally bad tools. They just didn't fit my brain and, frankly, hurt my eyes and ears. It was not the only thing -- the machines fit the firm's intellectual and political standards -- but it was a big part of making my life miserable every day. I'm still taking some time off and thinking about my options but one of the main motivations for doing my own thing would be to never ever have to work again with stuff I hate.
- brianritchie 16y agoThe Financial Industry is unfortunately plagued with such issues though. I had to survive with the exact thing until I requested Admin access and updated my boxes myself. Dropbox definitely has it right though with the whole dream machine idea. Kudos to them.
- warfangle 16y agoDid a stint as a freelancer at a major marketing firm about a year ago. Was running a pentium 4 with half a gig of ram and windows 2000. Not that bad, I suppose - it could have been worse. Except there was photoshop involved. And a solitary 15" monitor. And they required IE8 support (which required running a virtual machine with windows xp). After I finished my first project there I was gone pretty quickly. Along with almost their entire freelance development team (they had ~6 freelancers and two full time developers). After we left, we heard the VP we reported to was let go..
- DannoHung 16y agoHmmm... what would it take to drive half a dozen 30" monitors?
- mattmillr 16y agoA Mac Pro with two ATI Radeon HD 5770's gives you 4 Mini Display Port and 2 Dual-Link DVI outputs.
- mattmcknight 16y agoSadly, the whole dropbox site is blocked by the firewall at the client I am currently supporting (and they gave me a 15" monitor). Craziest though is they only allow Firefox 2.0- I keep sending them the vulnerabilities list. I run chromium instead...
- sanj 16y agoPfft. "root on your box" is so last week. Here at TripAdvisor, we give engineers root on EVERY box. I'd add "modulo the live site", but when I needed that, it was made available. I think of this as the computer equivalent of the HP story of one of the founders using an axe to break into a storage closet so engineers had access to equipment over the weekend. (blah blah blah we're hiring blah blah blah)
- smokinn 16y agoWhen I saw the "we're hiring" comment I went to check out your site. I'm sorry to say but your careers section is pretty horrible. Your About Us page is blank: http://www.tripadvisor.com/careers/chronicle http://www.tripadvisor.com/careers/chronicle There's Learn about us in 30 seconds and More about us ... on the right side that seem like they should be links but they aren't. Your jobs page: http://www.tripadvisor.com/careers/jobs http://www.tripadvisor.com/careers/jobs is the standard outsourced and absolutely terrible job database search. No offense intended but based on your career section alone I would never apply there. I might apply if I met people at a networking event and they convinced me but definitely not based on your site info.
- sanj 16y agoYou're totally right. In fact, we have a project underway to try to make it suck less. Having said that, if you're anywhere nearby, drop me a line and just come in for lunch. It'll be more compelling than any jobs page we could put up.
- smokinn 16y agoI'm in Montreal, definitely not nearby. I'm not looking for a job either I'm just a nosy person. =) I'll take a rain-check though in case I do someday end up in Newton.
- cperciva 16y agoHere at TripAdvisor, we give engineers root on EVERY box. Ugh. I understand the principle of empowering developers, but some basic security would be nice...
- rmc 16y agoIt would only be cooler if the shark had a laser beam on it's head.
- rman666 16y ago+1
- edanm 16y agoI loved it too. Then I clicked on the "try our challenges" link and found another awesome image: http://www.dropbox.com/jobs/challenges http://www.dropbox.com/jobs/challenges. All things considered, I'm falling in love with Dropbox more each day! :)
- bbuffone 16y agoLove the musical culture: Every night around 7, I turn up the music in the office. Then I have to explain to the beijing office why ICP, G&R, 2-Pac or any other thing I put on is a good choice. The Killer or Fleetwood Mac seems goes over better. I find that music at night and on the weekends makes all the work even more fun.
- jcromartie 16y agoI find that not working on nights and weekends makes life more fun.
- chops 16y agoSome people enjoy working like that, and enjoy their jobs enough that they don't care that they're actually working. The extreme example is John Carmack, who according to the book "The Masters of Doom", would crank music all night, and drink diet pepsi (early days of id, grant you, I don't know how he works now) while programming. He rolled in the office at 4pm and stayed until early morning. There's nothing wrong with working crazy late hours if you enjoy it.
- oiuytghyuj 16y agoRolled in at 4pm - when he wanted. The problem is when you start at 8am, work all day, waste time in meetings - then have to stay til 10pm every night to meet some deadline so that a sales guy gets a bonus.
- bbuffone 16y agoThere are lots of things that "makes life more fun". I find that not having to work nights and weekends, but loving so much what you do and the problems you work on and the people you work with; makes life even more fun.
- Torn 16y agoRelated to logo? http://www.wow.com/2010/07/30/the-maelstrom-is-probably-epic-enough-for-you-now/ http://www.wow.com/2010/07/30/the-maelstrom-is-probably-epic...
- oyako 16y agoi'm jon, the guy who made the drawing. though i did play wow once upon a time, the drawing actually wasn't inspired by this despite the crazy coincidence that both have a dino riding a shark. ...but i'm not gonna lie; i will say that wow's version really makes me heartbroken that i left out a laser beam D:
- binomial 16y agoIt would seem that it was subconscious inspiration. Things you see around you can easily get into your creative work without you realizing it (I know, [citation needed]). I did see a show where someone anticipated the nature a creative drawing, just by showing them similar imagery a while before. But that doesn't count as a citation.
- moconnor 16y agoMaybe the subconscious inspiration came (as all good things do) from Calvin and Hobbes: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__3Q5VU_ujpg/Sct9EyHiDjI/AAAAAAAABco/MlWlpFOrmrU/s1600-h/TrexF14.jpg http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__3Q5VU_ujpg/Sct9EyHiDjI/AAAAAAAABc... and, perhaps: http://www.flickr.com/photos/thoth-god/3680478087/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/thoth-god/3680478087/
- arkaidy 16y agoGreat way to let company culture shine. The site seriously stands out from typical, generic job postings. Dropbox looks like a fun place to work :).
- rickmak 16y agoI love the Gaming Benefits, Starcraft 2. Only 2 of us playing at my office:/
- NickPollard 16y agoMaybe we should start a HN group on Battle.net (This is where we rant about no chat channels yet on Bnet2.0)
- nuclear_eclipse 16y agoI'd join that
- pjmurray 16y agoClever - quirky enough to get to the top of HN, informing (arguably) the best pool of potential employees that they're hiring.
- tamersalama 16y agoNice img. I do remember another version in a ruby-oriented blog with a bear in place of the rex. Can't remember where.
- jroes 16y agoAre you thinking of this thoughtbot post? http://robots.thoughtbot.com/post/159805334/make-your-test-suite-uncomfortably-fast http://robots.thoughtbot.com/post/159805334/make-your-test-s... I just put this into a unit testing presentation we did at my dayjob.
- tamersalama 16y agoThank you
- zackattack 16y agoDude. Laser tag in the office? That's awesome.
- zackattack 16y agoI also love the subtle "Test your might" MK ref.
- oyako 16y agoglad you spotted that ;) internal mockups actually had the giant dragon mk logo.
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- ramki 16y agoI like "Whiskey Fridays." :)
- v21 16y agoI understand it's pretty normal for America, but 15 days paid holiday seems so small to me. 22.5 here in the UK + bank holidays, and I don't feel it's particularly generous. Hmm...
- leif 16y agoIt's standard. Actually pretty good here. It's meant to grow too, in most cases. Does UK PTO get bigger the more you work?
- arnorhs 16y agoDon't know about UK, but in Iceland it's generally 22.5 days as well as a minimum, but with each year you work for an employer it increases. But it also depends on which union you're a part of etc.
- semanticist 16y agoIncluding bank/public holidays the legal minimum for a full-time employee in the UK is 5.6 weeks, or 28 days. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7740249.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7740249.stm) I have 29.5 days in total, with some of those being compulsory because the office is closed. Some are confusingly called 'compulsory discretionary' holidays due to the hilarious management I have. My employer adds an extra half a day each year you stay with the company, plus another half a day if you meet sickness attendance targets.
- v21 16y agoYeah, I think I get an extra half day a year. I forget, though, because I haven't been here a year, and we just got bought out and had all this stuff reshuffled.
- semanticist 16y agoThere's no legal requirement for your holiday entitlement to increase each year - it just needs to be at least the minimum number of days. In my experience, different companies handle it in different ways - one company I was with increased it by five days, but on your fifth anniversary with the company. I've also heard of companies giving one-off extra holidays for long service or other achievements. If you're employed directly by a large company, your holiday situation is usually pretty good in the UK. If you're employed through an agency or you're a temporary worker, then it's usually pretty dire (compared to the UK norm - probably still quite good compared to the US).
- gyardley 16y agoHeh - love it. But playing devil's advocate here: won't this discourage applicants who aren't up on their latest internet memes? Is stuff like this on the recruiting page just a fast route to a homogenous company with a reduced ability to design for users not like them?
- nollidge 16y agoSharks and raptors aren't Internet memes, they're just badass motherfuckers. Edit: Well OK, turns out it is a meme. But I still think it's cool due to the aforementioned badass motherfuckery.
- patio11 16y agoAll corporate cultures select for "More people like us, please." (Especially the ones who mention how important a diverse workforce is to them. That line is not neutral with respect to the kind of people you want to hire.) The least they can do is be honest about it.
- gyardley 16y agoThis might be true. I've done this myself. But is it ideal? I don't particularly care for 'people of all colors holding hands under a rainbow' as an ideology, but I do think it's easier for a homogenous team to make bad product mistakes.
- wglb 16y agoDuring my enterprise time, I was a contractor at a BFE, and they did a pretty good job of diverse hiring by many measures. However, once people started, there was no room for diversity of thinking. So diversity in hiring, no diversity in thinking.
- ja2ke 16y agoI've been partial to our jobs page art since it went up a few years ago http://www.telltalegames.com/company/jobs/ http://www.telltalegames.com/company/jobs/
- scottw 16y agoThere should be a bear holding the shark: http://www.hrwiki.org/wiki/Bear_holding_a_Shark http://www.hrwiki.org/wiki/Bear_holding_a_Shark
- sabj 16y agoThat is an _amazing_ "we're hiring" image! I didn't even need the rest of the page; why would I, with a graphic like that? Truly remarkable work, dropbox.
- eekfuh 16y agoI wanted to apply, except they used the term baller in the job description.