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The only issue is when I had to run to Manhattan I jumped in my car and went either into a parking lot or just dropped something off. Still get charged for the

The only issue is when I had to run to Manhattan I jumped in my car and went either into a parking lot or just dropped something off. Still get charged for the Bridge Fees of $15!!! $15 to use the GWB and anything going to Long Island or NJ is ridiculous and Verrizano is $17 and that is the the highest cost for a bridge in the nation. GWB is a major interstate and you have to swing up to the Tapanzee or go further north Fishkill Bridge to get lower fees. Now add the $11 fee and my cost is $26 just to drive to one place in Manhattan.

Simon_says 9y ago
Is that too high? Then kindly don't drive in Manhattan.
- yipbub 9y ago
  For clarity: perhaps emphasize the word drive.
- baldfat 9y ago
  $100 to commute a week isn't to high? When the train cost $27 round trip (off peak) or $38.50 (peak) it is a pain. Also if you have business in NYC you are stuck with either losing the whole day or half a day just to get there. Now Chicago, Atlanta and LA have bad traffic it doesn't cost you a hundred bucks to commute for a week.
  - chimeracoder 9y ago
    > $100 to commute a week isn't to high? So move to the city and enjoy a shorter (and cheaper) commute. Of course, since you're currently living 50 miles outside the city, the increase in rent would be much more than $100, so you're still enjoying the cheaper end of the bargain. > Now Chicago, Atlanta and LA have bad traffic it doesn't cost you a hundred bucks to commute for a week. With parking, you could easily pay that much in other U.S. cities. In addition, they all have pretty terrible options for public transit compared to New York, so I'm not really keen on using them as a reference point.
    - walshemj 9y ago
      Well id like to move to central London and cut my commute but I could not afford say a two bed ex council flat on red lion square. And neither could my boss (a director) or his boss (the MD of a subsidiary of RELEX)
  - matwood 9y ago
    > $100 to commute a week isn't to high? Only counting gas and parking it would be ~$50+/week in my smallish town/city living 10-20 miles away. If you add in all the other car costs it would quickly reach $100/week.
  - vonmoltke 9y ago
    > $100 to commute a week isn't to high? That's what you get when you want to live that far out. I pay $50/week to go from Essex County, NJ. That was about what my commute cost me (driving) in Dallas. > When the train cost $27 round trip (off peak) or $38.50 (peak) it is a pain. Also if you have business in NYC you are stuck with either losing the whole day or half a day just to get there. What train costs this much? The closest I can find is the Port Jervis Metro-North line, coming all the way from Port Jervis (which is way the fuck out there). I wouldn't do that commute for any price unless I had to. If I did, I sure as hell wouldn't buy per-day tickets; I'd get the monthly pass for $488.
rthomas6 9y ago
Why couldn't you take a train instead? That area is one of the only places in the US where public transportation is good enough to make that feasible.
- baldfat 9y ago
  Time for me to get on the train and go to NYC one way is 2 hours plus, so over 4 hours round trip. It is 50 miles away from my old home. Cost is $27 round trip (off peak) or $38.50 (peak) for the ticket. So taking the train is convenient and I love it but it ruins the rest of my day. Now there was a time when I was 19 and the last train left at 11 PM I the schedule said 1 AM kind of sucked and the next train was at 5 AM. It was with friends from LA and their flight was at 9 AM the next day. You are on the trains schedule so I will have to wait for the train to leave. Usually if I had a quick stop in the city I would make other stops coming back home. Most people HATE driving in NYC and refuse to do it so I am not sure how much this will help.
  - chimeracoder 9y ago
    > Time for me to get on the train and go to NYC one way is 2 hours plus, so over 4 hours round trip. It is 50 miles away from my old home. Cost is $27 round trip (off peak) or $38.50 (peak) for the ticket. So taking the train is convenient and I love it but it ruins the rest of my day. Put another way, with congestion pricing, you have two options: * Pay $27-$38.50 (total) for a four hour round-trip on public transit * Pay $26 (not including gas) for a faster trip in a private car, probably about two hours round-trip[0] I'm having a hard time sympathizing with this as a problem, especially since you're coming from 50 miles away. I know people who commute every day from Kingston to Brooklyn using public transit, and that's a full 100 miles. [0] With no traffic, Kingston to Manhattan (100 miles) is about two hours by car each way, so I'll assume that your travel would take two hours for a round trip.
    - baldfat 9y ago
      My WHOLE point is the cost is ridiculous. People paying $5000 to $12000 a year to commute to work in NYC. It also makes it more difficult to get around. I grew up in Danbury, CT and probably 20% of the city works in NYC and I now live in Allentown, PA and know several that work there full time and it takes 30 minutes to get to a train station to NYC. I had one full time job in Manhattan when I was 18 and commuted everyday on the train. I also would have contracted work to do some music or video production and need to be there around 3 PM until 11 PM to 4 AM. So there are certain things that the $11 fee just makes it harder for people to do work.

Simon_says 9y ago

Is that too high? Then kindly don't drive in Manhattan.

yipbub 9y ago
For clarity: perhaps emphasize the word drive.
baldfat 9y ago
$100 to commute a week isn't to high? When the train cost $27 round trip (off peak) or $38.50 (peak) it is a pain. Also if you have business in NYC you are stuck with either losing the whole day or half a day just to get there. Now Chicago, Atlanta and LA have bad traffic it doesn't cost you a hundred bucks to commute for a week.
- chimeracoder 9y ago
  > $100 to commute a week isn't to high? So move to the city and enjoy a shorter (and cheaper) commute. Of course, since you're currently living 50 miles outside the city, the increase in rent would be much more than $100, so you're still enjoying the cheaper end of the bargain. > Now Chicago, Atlanta and LA have bad traffic it doesn't cost you a hundred bucks to commute for a week. With parking, you could easily pay that much in other U.S. cities. In addition, they all have pretty terrible options for public transit compared to New York, so I'm not really keen on using them as a reference point.
  - walshemj 9y ago
    Well id like to move to central London and cut my commute but I could not afford say a two bed ex council flat on red lion square. And neither could my boss (a director) or his boss (the MD of a subsidiary of RELEX)
- matwood 9y ago
  > $100 to commute a week isn't to high? Only counting gas and parking it would be ~$50+/week in my smallish town/city living 10-20 miles away. If you add in all the other car costs it would quickly reach $100/week.
- vonmoltke 9y ago
  > $100 to commute a week isn't to high? That's what you get when you want to live that far out. I pay $50/week to go from Essex County, NJ. That was about what my commute cost me (driving) in Dallas. > When the train cost $27 round trip (off peak) or $38.50 (peak) it is a pain. Also if you have business in NYC you are stuck with either losing the whole day or half a day just to get there. What train costs this much? The closest I can find is the Port Jervis Metro-North line, coming all the way from Port Jervis (which is way the fuck out there). I wouldn't do that commute for any price unless I had to. If I did, I sure as hell wouldn't buy per-day tickets; I'd get the monthly pass for $488.

rthomas6 9y ago

Why couldn't you take a train instead? That area is one of the only places in the US where public transportation is good enough to make that feasible.

baldfat 9y ago
Time for me to get on the train and go to NYC one way is 2 hours plus, so over 4 hours round trip. It is 50 miles away from my old home. Cost is $27 round trip (off peak) or $38.50 (peak) for the ticket. So taking the train is convenient and I love it but it ruins the rest of my day. Now there was a time when I was 19 and the last train left at 11 PM I the schedule said 1 AM kind of sucked and the next train was at 5 AM. It was with friends from LA and their flight was at 9 AM the next day. You are on the trains schedule so I will have to wait for the train to leave. Usually if I had a quick stop in the city I would make other stops coming back home. Most people HATE driving in NYC and refuse to do it so I am not sure how much this will help.
- chimeracoder 9y ago
  > Time for me to get on the train and go to NYC one way is 2 hours plus, so over 4 hours round trip. It is 50 miles away from my old home. Cost is $27 round trip (off peak) or $38.50 (peak) for the ticket. So taking the train is convenient and I love it but it ruins the rest of my day. Put another way, with congestion pricing, you have two options: * Pay $27-$38.50 (total) for a four hour round-trip on public transit * Pay $26 (not including gas) for a faster trip in a private car, probably about two hours round-trip[0] I'm having a hard time sympathizing with this as a problem, especially since you're coming from 50 miles away. I know people who commute every day from Kingston to Brooklyn using public transit, and that's a full 100 miles. [0] With no traffic, Kingston to Manhattan (100 miles) is about two hours by car each way, so I'll assume that your travel would take two hours for a round trip.
  - baldfat 9y ago
    My WHOLE point is the cost is ridiculous. People paying $5000 to $12000 a year to commute to work in NYC. It also makes it more difficult to get around. I grew up in Danbury, CT and probably 20% of the city works in NYC and I now live in Allentown, PA and know several that work there full time and it takes 30 minutes to get to a train station to NYC. I had one full time job in Manhattan when I was 18 and commuted everyday on the train. I also would have contracted work to do some music or video production and need to be there around 3 PM until 11 PM to 4 AM. So there are certain things that the $11 fee just makes it harder for people to do work.