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> people were saying the same exact thing about Trump before he took office and we are now all very sure it's not the case Don't be so sure. First, he outsmart

> people were saying the same exact thing about Trump before he took office and we are now all very sure it's not the case Don't be so sure. First, he outsmarted both political parties to become the most powerful man in the world. And in his first year as president, he's been far more effective at getting things done than most. The fact that some people dislike the things he's getting done doesn't take anything away from that.

macintux 9y ago
> And in his first year as president, he's been far more effective at getting things done than most. Citation (other than him or his spokespersons) needed.
- monochromatic 9y ago
  http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trumps-top-9-accomplishments-of-2017/article/2644478 http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trumps-top-9-accomplishmen... http://blog.dilbert.com/2017/11/13/president-trumps-2017-report-card-first-draft/ http://blog.dilbert.com/2017/11/13/president-trumps-2017-rep...
  - Daishiman 9y ago
    Those are BS accomplishments and their twisting of logic is beyond ludicrous.
    - monochromatic 9y ago
      > The fact that some people dislike the things he's getting done doesn't take anything away from that. What’s BS about them?
      - s73ver_ 9y ago
        You don't get to claim judicial appointments as one of your accomplishments when the only reason they are there is because another member of your party, who happened to be the Senate Majority Leader, basically said "You Shall Not Pass!" to all the previous President's nominees. As for "government waste", arguably he's wasting far, far, far more with his golf trips than any that he "saved". And many of those "savings" came at the expense of social programs that, without, will likely end up costing us more. The travel ban is a giant example of his racism that I guess you could put on his accomplishments, if only to show how brazenly racist he would be in office. Even then, it's initial rollout was a complete and utter disaster, and it was prevented by injunction several times. Trump has NOT defeated ISIS. Not even close. Throwing gasoline on an already fiery situation in the Middle East is NOT an accomplishment. Dooming the US to irrelevance by being the one first world nation to not participate in the Paris Climate Accords, thus ceding our position as leader of the world, is also NOT an accomplishment.
spectra72 9y ago
If the recent book is to be believed at all, we now know that the person that Trump outsmarted most of all was himself. He never intended to actually win.
- jrs235 9y ago
  Or, perhaps Putin is the wisest leader of all?
- monochromatic 9y ago
  Trump's whole persona is about winning brashly and bigly. It's ludicrous to think that he entered a race he didn't intend to win. > If the recent book is to be believed at all It isn't to be believed, literally at all. http://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/367902-dont-believe-michael-wolffs-book-about-trump-if-you-want-the-truth http://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/367902-dont-believe-m... https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/01/03/michael-wolffs-unbelievable-sometimes-literally-tell-all-about-the-trump-administration/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/01/03/mi...
  - gilbetron 9y ago
    "by Sebastian Gorka" Yeah, no thanks. I'll believe 100% of the book before I believe 0.01% of what Gorka spouts.
    - monochromatic 9y ago
      Well that’s silly, but you also chose to ignore the other link.
- Aunche 9y ago
  Just because he didn't expect to win doesn't mean that his victory was a fluke. You can't accidentally get yourself elected as President.
ModernMech 9y ago
> he's been far more effective at getting things done than most. You say this as we're on the brink of a government shutdown (a government controlled entirely by the President's party), which has been exacerbated by the President. The Senate Majority Leader (again, of the President's own party) said just yesterday the President is the primary impediment to keeping the government open, because no one knows what exactly he will sign, since he changes his mind by the hour.
- meragrin 9y ago
  >a government controlled entirely by the President's party Not quite. They cannot easily get by a filibuster.

macintux 9y ago

> And in his first year as president, he's been far more effective at getting things done than most. Citation (other than him or his spokespersons) needed.

monochromatic 9y ago
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trumps-top-9-accomplishments-of-2017/article/2644478 http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trumps-top-9-accomplishmen... http://blog.dilbert.com/2017/11/13/president-trumps-2017-report-card-first-draft/ http://blog.dilbert.com/2017/11/13/president-trumps-2017-rep...
- Daishiman 9y ago
  Those are BS accomplishments and their twisting of logic is beyond ludicrous.
  - monochromatic 9y ago
    > The fact that some people dislike the things he's getting done doesn't take anything away from that. What’s BS about them?
    - s73ver_ 9y ago
      You don't get to claim judicial appointments as one of your accomplishments when the only reason they are there is because another member of your party, who happened to be the Senate Majority Leader, basically said "You Shall Not Pass!" to all the previous President's nominees. As for "government waste", arguably he's wasting far, far, far more with his golf trips than any that he "saved". And many of those "savings" came at the expense of social programs that, without, will likely end up costing us more. The travel ban is a giant example of his racism that I guess you could put on his accomplishments, if only to show how brazenly racist he would be in office. Even then, it's initial rollout was a complete and utter disaster, and it was prevented by injunction several times. Trump has NOT defeated ISIS. Not even close. Throwing gasoline on an already fiery situation in the Middle East is NOT an accomplishment. Dooming the US to irrelevance by being the one first world nation to not participate in the Paris Climate Accords, thus ceding our position as leader of the world, is also NOT an accomplishment.

spectra72 9y ago

If the recent book is to be believed at all, we now know that the person that Trump outsmarted most of all was himself. He never intended to actually win.

jrs235 9y ago
Or, perhaps Putin is the wisest leader of all?
monochromatic 9y ago
Trump's whole persona is about winning brashly and bigly. It's ludicrous to think that he entered a race he didn't intend to win. > If the recent book is to be believed at all It isn't to be believed, literally at all. http://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/367902-dont-believe-michael-wolffs-book-about-trump-if-you-want-the-truth http://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/367902-dont-believe-m... https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/01/03/michael-wolffs-unbelievable-sometimes-literally-tell-all-about-the-trump-administration/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/01/03/mi...
- gilbetron 9y ago
  "by Sebastian Gorka" Yeah, no thanks. I'll believe 100% of the book before I believe 0.01% of what Gorka spouts.
  - monochromatic 9y ago
    Well that’s silly, but you also chose to ignore the other link.
Aunche 9y ago
Just because he didn't expect to win doesn't mean that his victory was a fluke. You can't accidentally get yourself elected as President.

ModernMech 9y ago

> he's been far more effective at getting things done than most. You say this as we're on the brink of a government shutdown (a government controlled entirely by the President's party), which has been exacerbated by the President. The Senate Majority Leader (again, of the President's own party) said just yesterday the President is the primary impediment to keeping the government open, because no one knows what exactly he will sign, since he changes his mind by the hour.

meragrin 9y ago
>a government controlled entirely by the President's party Not quite. They cannot easily get by a filibuster.