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"Citizens are extremely wary of the government to do it right." - I don't think citizens have much say in the matter... - it's worth noting that along with dat

"Citizens are extremely wary of the government to do it right." - I don't think citizens have much say in the matter... - it's worth noting that along with data and talent, there is money - China's dedicated 150 billion USD to AI as part of it's 5 year plan. Meanwhile the US is considering cutting scientific research funding by as much as 15% as part of 2018 budget

seanmcdirmid 9y ago
> "Citizens are extremely wary of the government to do it right." - I don't think citizens have much say in the matter... They actually have more say than you think. And also, the government also has a lot of its own introspection about nuclear, especially after Fukushima. Couple with the huge capital costs, and it isn't a sure thing for China. > it's worth noting that along with data and talent, there is money - China's dedicated 150 billion USD to AI as part of it's 5 year plan. Much of the current advances in AI are not coming from federal funding (rather, private companies who are using it). Nor can you expect Chinese academia to soak up that much money and use it efficiently. Again, China has a chance at it, but it is far from inevitable. It is annoying to me when they talk about how their success is a sure thing, the Chinese government used to talk about how they would clean up their pollution problem by 2015 in 2010 because they were going to spend a lot of money on it....
- nsypteras 9y ago
  "They actually have more say than you think" - I disagree. China forcibly relocated over 1 million to complete the 3 gorges project. It doesn't have the best track record of reacting to citizen concerns. I think the other points you mention are more material in it's nuclear considerations. Fair about the money and pollution. I would assume those commercial advances you mention however are mostly non-military, nor will players like Google or Apple likely soon contribute to US government/military AI research initiatives. I guess in the end the "AI race" is more like "AI olympics" in that no country will win all the events

seanmcdirmid 9y ago

> "Citizens are extremely wary of the government to do it right." - I don't think citizens have much say in the matter... They actually have more say than you think. And also, the government also has a lot of its own introspection about nuclear, especially after Fukushima. Couple with the huge capital costs, and it isn't a sure thing for China. > it's worth noting that along with data and talent, there is money - China's dedicated 150 billion USD to AI as part of it's 5 year plan. Much of the current advances in AI are not coming from federal funding (rather, private companies who are using it). Nor can you expect Chinese academia to soak up that much money and use it efficiently. Again, China has a chance at it, but it is far from inevitable. It is annoying to me when they talk about how their success is a sure thing, the Chinese government used to talk about how they would clean up their pollution problem by 2015 in 2010 because they were going to spend a lot of money on it....

nsypteras 9y ago
"They actually have more say than you think" - I disagree. China forcibly relocated over 1 million to complete the 3 gorges project. It doesn't have the best track record of reacting to citizen concerns. I think the other points you mention are more material in it's nuclear considerations. Fair about the money and pollution. I would assume those commercial advances you mention however are mostly non-military, nor will players like Google or Apple likely soon contribute to US government/military AI research initiatives. I guess in the end the "AI race" is more like "AI olympics" in that no country will win all the events