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Yeah, the Gates Foundation only cares about their image, they're really just in the pocket of Nigerian oil tycoons. LMAO. Or, you know, there are tens of milli

Yeah, the Gates Foundation only cares about their image, they're really just in the pocket of Nigerian oil tycoons. LMAO. Or, you know, there are tens of millions of people in Nigeria suffering from problems unimaginable in the West, and their goal is to help children and eliminate diseases rather than wait for fundamental governmental reform that won't occur for decades at least.

yipopov 9y ago
Look, Nigeria is swimming in money yet remains a shithole. The Gates Foundation "donation" is only a replacement for tax money that went into somebody's pocket instead of being used for what taxes are meant to be used for, whether paying loans or building a healthcare system. I never said they were in the pocket of the oil tycoons. The oil tycoons aren't the ones embezzling the country's entire national budget.
- simplemath__ 9y ago
  >shithole you're tipping your hand a little much
  - JumpCrisscross 9y ago
    This user has a track record on this front [1]. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16127928 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16127928
    - thisacctforreal 9y ago
      I find these style of comments very distasteful.
      - cornyNetHandle 9y ago
        Why?
  - btilly 9y ago
    According to https://www.transparency.org/news/feature/corruption_perceptions_index_2016?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI2NK09Z7b2AIVhMBkCh1DBwUaEAAYASAAEgKOqfD_BwE https://www.transparency.org/news/feature/corruption_percept... Nigeria is tied for 136th worst corruption in the world, out of 176 countries. Worldwide, Nigeria is the poster boy for scams. Google "nigerian 419 scammer" for an example. According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)... the per capita income of Nigeria is < $6k per person, placing it at 127/187 worldwide with under 40% of the global average. From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expe... the 2015 WHO estimate placed Nigeria with a life expectancy of 54.5, which placed it at 177 out of 183 countries. You may think that "shithole" is too strong of a statement. But that description seems about right to me. What is average for Nigeria would qualify as a horrible slum in most countries.
    - JumpCrisscross 9y ago
      > You may think that "shithole" is too strong of a statement. But that description seems about right to me It's a term that was recently applied, with almost comical precision, to countries that are predominantly black. It was applied in respect of the people from those countries, specifically immigrants, more specifically regarding their individual merit as potential Americans. TL; DR When discussing race, particularly anything relating to black people or predominantly-black countries, it's probably best to use another word.
      - wooter 9y ago
        as a minority immigrant from a shithole country, i find this opinion condescending and racist. please use whatever adjective you would use for any other race - i don't need my sensitive minority ears protected by an up-to-the-minute adjective whitelist, thanks.
        simplemath__ 9y ago
        your appeal to authority is naked
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- adventured 9y ago
  Nigeria is not swimming in money. You're talking about $200 or $300 per capita of GDP going to corruption, maximum. They have an economy comparable in size to Indiana, with 190 million people.
  - btilly 9y ago
    You're talking about $200 or $300 per capita of GDP going to corruption, maximum. Do you have a source? According to https://www.pwc.com/ng/en/publications/impact-of-corruption-on-nigerias-economy.html https://www.pwc.com/ng/en/publications/impact-of-corruption-... the cost of corruption in Nigeria is around $1000 per person per year, and rising. Given that the GDP per capita is estimated at around $2180 per person, this is not a small impact. (I was surprised to find that GDP per capita is less than income per capita.)

yipopov 9y ago

Look, Nigeria is swimming in money yet remains a shithole. The Gates Foundation "donation" is only a replacement for tax money that went into somebody's pocket instead of being used for what taxes are meant to be used for, whether paying loans or building a healthcare system. I never said they were in the pocket of the oil tycoons. The oil tycoons aren't the ones embezzling the country's entire national budget.

simplemath__ 9y ago
>shithole you're tipping your hand a little much
- JumpCrisscross 9y ago
  This user has a track record on this front [1]. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16127928 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16127928
  - thisacctforreal 9y ago
    I find these style of comments very distasteful.
    - cornyNetHandle 9y ago
      Why?
- btilly 9y ago
  According to https://www.transparency.org/news/feature/corruption_perceptions_index_2016?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI2NK09Z7b2AIVhMBkCh1DBwUaEAAYASAAEgKOqfD_BwE https://www.transparency.org/news/feature/corruption_percept... Nigeria is tied for 136th worst corruption in the world, out of 176 countries. Worldwide, Nigeria is the poster boy for scams. Google "nigerian 419 scammer" for an example. According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)... the per capita income of Nigeria is < $6k per person, placing it at 127/187 worldwide with under 40% of the global average. From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expe... the 2015 WHO estimate placed Nigeria with a life expectancy of 54.5, which placed it at 177 out of 183 countries. You may think that "shithole" is too strong of a statement. But that description seems about right to me. What is average for Nigeria would qualify as a horrible slum in most countries.
  - JumpCrisscross 9y ago
    > You may think that "shithole" is too strong of a statement. But that description seems about right to me It's a term that was recently applied, with almost comical precision, to countries that are predominantly black. It was applied in respect of the people from those countries, specifically immigrants, more specifically regarding their individual merit as potential Americans. TL; DR When discussing race, particularly anything relating to black people or predominantly-black countries, it's probably best to use another word.
    - wooter 9y ago
      as a minority immigrant from a shithole country, i find this opinion condescending and racist. please use whatever adjective you would use for any other race - i don't need my sensitive minority ears protected by an up-to-the-minute adjective whitelist, thanks.
      - simplemath__ 9y ago
        your appeal to authority is naked
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adventured 9y ago
Nigeria is not swimming in money. You're talking about $200 or $300 per capita of GDP going to corruption, maximum. They have an economy comparable in size to Indiana, with 190 million people.
- btilly 9y ago
  You're talking about $200 or $300 per capita of GDP going to corruption, maximum. Do you have a source? According to https://www.pwc.com/ng/en/publications/impact-of-corruption-on-nigerias-economy.html https://www.pwc.com/ng/en/publications/impact-of-corruption-... the cost of corruption in Nigeria is around $1000 per person per year, and rising. Given that the GDP per capita is estimated at around $2180 per person, this is not a small impact. (I was surprised to find that GDP per capita is less than income per capita.)