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What course of action would you prefer: Willingly shut down iCloud in China or have iCloud forcefully shut down in China?
by dave84 9y ago
What course of action would you prefer: Willingly shut down iCloud in China or have iCloud forcefully shut down in China?
- ISL 9y agoI'd prefer that China allow its citizens to freely access the global internet.
- justaman 9y agoI think(I hope) as more people in China come online they will realize that they are missing out.
- r00fus 9y agoSadly the opposite might occur. Fake news is very useful. For corporations, it acts like PR/marketing channel. For nation-states it's a great propaganda channel. What if the Communist Party of China was actually visionaries what the Internet could do for oppressive nation-states, if properly harnessed for the good of the party?
- rainbowmverse 9y agoThis was the hope with the internet here in the US. Hundreds of millions of users later, the average person seems even less informed on the world around them. Access is meaningless if good information is less appealing or is made to seem less credible than propaganda.
- Y_Y 9y agoI was going to comment that I think the question referred to what course of action /Apple/ should take, but maybe fundamentally changing superstates is not off the table when you have multinational megacorp resources.
- lostlogin 9y agoWhat are you suggesting? Revolution?
- seanmcdirmid 9y agoAnd how could Apple accomplish that?
- azinman2 9y agoBy threatening to pull manufacturing.
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- seanmcdirmid 9y agoChina adds so little value there I don’t think it would cause a blip. Then Apple would have decide somewhere else to do that with the right supply chain in place.
- venomsnake 9y agoRevolutionary one - unlock the iphone bootloader and let users use their devices in the ways they want. Which will make it a lot harder to censor in a central way.
- aeleos 9y agoI would much prefer that the license and information from apple explicitly stated that this chinese firm will only be able store and access data from chinese accounts and there is a very secure barrier between the two. However, given this paragraph They include a clause that both Apple and the Chinese firm will have access to all data stored on iCloud. It makes me really worried about apples commitment to privacy.
- reaperducer 9y agoHow about a notice on iCloud reading something like "iCloud is not available in your country due to local government regulations that are in conflict with our position on personal privacy. We are sorry for the inconvenience."
- penagwin 9y agoGiven China's history I would expect them to be very, very upset by this public criticism of their government. Especially on every iPhone.
- tsycho 9y agoGoogle did that (actually took an even stronger stance). But if competitors don't do the same, then nothing changes and you are just ceding the market to them. To be clear, I am not advocating that companies should bow down on their principles, just that it needs to be a more coordinated effort across companies, and might need new technical solutions to evade government firewalls etc. While I am cynical that my wishes would come true, I do respect the companies that take a moral stance against their own business interests, which includes Google in China and Apple in the US.