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Introducing the new Google Search Console
- chriszelazo 9y agoThis is definitely a different era of google
- orliesaurus 9y agoIt will be like the new adwords. Looks pretty, but is missing half the features and eventually..once it comes out of its "beta" everyone who's been using this tool daily, will regret not staying on the older version.
- lucideer 9y agoWebmaster tools never had many features, so I'd be surprised if they reduced the featureset significantly.
- TheVinous 9y agoI hope it won't mean less feature. However, I don't like the new Adwords either, the UI is better, but the whole UX is a crap, I have to read tons of articles to find the good old features.
- ilovemesomeperl 9y agoHow does it compare, feature wise to the old one?
- thomas 9y agoWondering the same thing! These new releases tend to get a lot prettier but they almost always lose important, lesser-known features
- joecool1029 9y agoMy favorite is still Google Voice. Google: "Ok, lets finally update the UX from a decade ago so we can thread messages... oh yeah but you can't actually configure your voicemail account with your carrier, or even view what your voicemail number is until you revert to legacy google voice. Actually just use legacy if you want to be able to reliably delete messages too"
- superasn 9y agoInstead of making us follow these Amp non-standards, Google should give an AMP logo in Google search results and preference (the same as an amp site) if the load time of the page is under 100ms. So now you have a choice, either DIY or use Google's tech to make your site fast. This way it will create dozens of tech companies competing with AMP focused on making the web faster - the end result that Google supposedly wants and this way everyone wins!
- rplnt 9y agoIn reality both approaches will result in webpages faking being fast.
- dx034 9y agoWhy faking? As a user, I prefer AMP pages because they load much faster. Often it's just because they don't have as many ads (and a non-amp page would be as fast then) but I can't see that from the search result.
- z3t4 9y agoWhen there is a incentive, like more clicks, and it doesn't matter if you fake it, and it's easier to fake, then people will fake it.
- founderling 9y agoYes they should. But they will not. Because that is how small companies do it. Ride the wave of open standards and become big. Remember how Google embraced the web in the early days? Now it's time for them to lock users in and milk them. I would love to see a startup tackling the issue. Creating a score that takes into account load time and other factors. If sites like HN and Reddit would use that score as a ranking factor, then this might get something rolling.
- bonesss 9y ago> Now it's time for Google to lock users in and milk them. I don't think Google is remotely at that point, and from their competitive perspective they're still winning by letting their open-standards-straw reach all the way across the room and drinking Microsofts/Oracles milkshake. And for a tech behemoth with Billions of dollars flying around and fingers in all the pies I think Google has one of the, if not the, best track records in standardization. Concretely, when comparing their products at the personal and Enterprise with their competition they're consistently more open... I think not having a massive clump of RDMB revenue helps them think freely about problems :)
- lars_francke 9y agoA link to the Search Console would have been great to have in the blog post.
- mkl 9y agoAgreed. The article was pretty opaque. "Google Search Console is a free service offered by Google that helps you monitor and maintain your site's presence in Google Search results." -- https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/4559176?hl=en https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/4559176?hl=en
- lars_francke 9y agoAs posted in another thread here the link seems to be https://search.google.com/search-console https://search.google.com/search-console
- samat 9y agoShows zero of my properties and property selection menu appears to be broken. Available only to select few users, maybe?
- tnolet 9y agoThat was about time. I was always flabbergasted by how rough and confusing the search console was. I really like how Google are revamping their marketing/admin tools. The Google Optimize [0] tool is pretty nice and the only A/B testing tool I know that is already pretty powerful in the free tier. 0: https://www.google.com/analytics/optimize/features/ https://www.google.com/analytics/optimize/features/
- digitalengineer 9y agoRelevant: "Conversion rates are much lower than they should be.".... "For Google, conversion rate is based on visits instead of visitors." Source: https://www.abtasty.com/blog/data-scientist-google-optimize/ https://www.abtasty.com/blog/data-scientist-google-optimize/
- ssharp 9y agoI found it a bit clunky, personally, but you can't complain too much about free when the alternatives are rather expensive. The majority of A/B tests I run are not "visual" and based on javascript DOM changes, along with CSS changes. That workflow takes very little time to execute in VWO but wasn't that apparent with Google.
- azifali 9y agoDoesn't work well in Firefox. WTF google? Hangouts doesn't work. Now search console too?
- madeofpalk 9y agoBut it's Safari that's the new IE, right? Killing the 'open web'?
- realusername 9y agoIn my case it looks broken in both, I can't select anything...
- rfolstad 9y agoHere is the link to the new search console: https://search.google.com/search-console https://search.google.com/search-console My sites aren't available yet but looking forward to trying it
- amelius 9y agoPerhaps I'm missing something but why do we need a "console"? Why can't we just post these search-engine related settings in a special file on our servers? That way, we don't have to manage 10 consoles for 10 different search engines.
- dx034 9y agoThe Google console is quite helpful in tracking errors on your page. You can obviously do that yourself but for small projects, using Google's console is easier. Search analytics is another topic that obviously needs a page on their side. Overall I'm happy with Google's console, especially compared to Bing.
- alvil 9y agofuck google. evil crap.
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- moocowtruck 9y agodang when i saw console i was like awesome! then i went to the website :( our definitions of console are different :(
- pkalinowski 9y agoSearch console is the most powerful tool available for SEO. It's weird that it was neglected for so many years. Nice to see they still work on it sometimes. 16 months of data is massive. Now you have to export everything every 3 months to keep historical data.
- ssharp 9y agoIt's not available to me yet. Besides the old 3-month limit, the other annoyance was the search terms they provided would cut in and out. So sometimes they'd give you SERP info on certain keywords and then a few months later, they'd eliminate reporting on those keywords.
- LeonM 9y agoBit of a weird introduction, as it does not contain a URL to the actual new console (apparently it has a different URL compared to the current 'webmaster tools'). Also, once you do find the URL, nothing seems to work (at least not for me on FF/chrome/safari). Can't see, select or add my websites to the console.