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> ... It's a state power-grab for supply side controls -- planned economy thinking -- justified by Adam Smith rhetoric, because some folks in San Francisco have

> ... It's a state power-grab for supply side controls -- planned economy thinking -- justified by Adam Smith rhetoric, because some folks in San Francisco have decided that they know what's wrong with the local planning of every other city in the state. How is this planned economy thinking? It seems to loosen regulation in local markets to allow developers to more readily meet demand. Quite to the contrary the current city zoning rules seem like planned economy thinking, because it makes a zoning plan that is rarely changed over even a decade-long timeline to match housing supply with the current demand. > people choose not to live in Brisbane because it's inconvenient to everywhere, not because Brisbane has zoning restrictions. Your argument seem to assume that the state will force developers to build where there is no demand. This law says nothing about that and the state has no such power, and this law to the contrary seek to ease regulation where there is demand for developers to build. Contrary to what you say Brisbane is served by public transit by both Muni and Caltrain. There is also a developer that wants to build a lot of new housing in Brisbane, so the market clearly think there is demand for new housing in Brisbane. The largest obstacle for the market to meet this demand is local zoning and the planning process in Brisbane.

timr 9y ago
"How is this planned economy thinking? It seems to loosen regulation in local markets to allow developers to more readily meet demand." It's state government trying to override local economic (zoning) decisions. It's the very definition of a centrally planned economy. "Contrary to what you say Brisbane is served by public transit by both Muni and Caltrain." There's one Caltrain stop. It's a 30-minute walk from the residential part of Brisbane, across the freeway and around the dump. MUNI bus service to the area is irregular and unreliable. The only practical commute option is car.
- asabjorn 9y ago
  > It's state government trying to override local economic (zoning) decisions. It's the very definition of a centrally planned economy. You are mischaracterizing the law and what zoning is. Zoning does not produce any housing and is instead an artificial constraint on housing supply. The planning after this law is still done at the city level, but the city is constrained in what planning it can do. > There's one Caltrain stop. It's a 30-minute walk from the residential part of Brisbane, across the freeway and around the dump. MUNI bus service to the area is irregular and unreliable. The only practical commute option is car. The developer is proposing to build upon the landfill just next to the caltrain stop, so for the new development this won't be a concern.

timr 9y ago

"How is this planned economy thinking? It seems to loosen regulation in local markets to allow developers to more readily meet demand." It's state government trying to override local economic (zoning) decisions. It's the very definition of a centrally planned economy. "Contrary to what you say Brisbane is served by public transit by both Muni and Caltrain." There's one Caltrain stop. It's a 30-minute walk from the residential part of Brisbane, across the freeway and around the dump. MUNI bus service to the area is irregular and unreliable. The only practical commute option is car.

asabjorn 9y ago
> It's state government trying to override local economic (zoning) decisions. It's the very definition of a centrally planned economy. You are mischaracterizing the law and what zoning is. Zoning does not produce any housing and is instead an artificial constraint on housing supply. The planning after this law is still done at the city level, but the city is constrained in what planning it can do. > There's one Caltrain stop. It's a 30-minute walk from the residential part of Brisbane, across the freeway and around the dump. MUNI bus service to the area is irregular and unreliable. The only practical commute option is car. The developer is proposing to build upon the landfill just next to the caltrain stop, so for the new development this won't be a concern.