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Well, given the territorial claims, yes, kind of that one. It just depends which government you believe as to whether the island of Taiwan is occupied territory

Well, given the territorial claims, yes, kind of that one. It just depends which government you believe as to whether the island of Taiwan is occupied territory, or everything else in China is occupied territory. And these are governments we're talking about, so, needless to say, both sides killed millions to make this happen. Not because those people that got killed worked for the other side or were doing anything at all (not even protesting most of them), but merely because they wanted to frighten the rest enough to not do anything against them. One of the nicknames for one of the actions of the Taiwanese government was "the White terror" (death toll: at least 10000, there had been a protest march against them, so naturally ...), the mainland Chinese government had a policy that each little town had to have at least one public execution, and millions died. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Taiwan#Republic_of_China_rule https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Taiwan#Republic_of_...

guan 9y ago
It’s worth noting that while the government in Taiwan still officially claims all of China, the government is currently led by a president (Tsai Ing-wen) whose party does not whole-heartedly endorse that position.
- seanmcdirmid 9y ago
  Ya, see the difference between the DPP and KMT. Chiang Kai Shek’s legacy is also very dubious amongst many Taiwanese (especially in the DPP), who don’t align with the communists either (and let’s not get into Japan).
qwerty456127 9y ago
Whatever they claim, in the present time reality the RC (Taiwan) and the PRC are 2 distinct independent countries that are not going to re-unite any soon. "Believing" any of the 2 just doesn't make much sense.
- qwerty456127 9y ago
  Also, as far s I understand, the division has began as a conflict of 2 political parties - the leftists (CPC) and the rightists (Kuomintang) that has escalated into a civil war. And as the result each party now controls its part of what was once meant to be a single country and claims the right to rule both. What makes me curious is why can't 2 parties just control their parts the way they do in Taiwan and PRC but do it peacefully and without nonsensical claims when the people of one part are more sympathetic to one and the people of the other part are more sympathetic to the other. Why is it so important to have one party to rule them all, including those who doesn't want it?

guan 9y ago

It’s worth noting that while the government in Taiwan still officially claims all of China, the government is currently led by a president (Tsai Ing-wen) whose party does not whole-heartedly endorse that position.

seanmcdirmid 9y ago
Ya, see the difference between the DPP and KMT. Chiang Kai Shek’s legacy is also very dubious amongst many Taiwanese (especially in the DPP), who don’t align with the communists either (and let’s not get into Japan).

qwerty456127 9y ago

Whatever they claim, in the present time reality the RC (Taiwan) and the PRC are 2 distinct independent countries that are not going to re-unite any soon. "Believing" any of the 2 just doesn't make much sense.

qwerty456127 9y ago
Also, as far s I understand, the division has began as a conflict of 2 political parties - the leftists (CPC) and the rightists (Kuomintang) that has escalated into a civil war. And as the result each party now controls its part of what was once meant to be a single country and claims the right to rule both. What makes me curious is why can't 2 parties just control their parts the way they do in Taiwan and PRC but do it peacefully and without nonsensical claims when the people of one part are more sympathetic to one and the people of the other part are more sympathetic to the other. Why is it so important to have one party to rule them all, including those who doesn't want it?