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Who would want to work for someone like this? If I can get my work done efficiently, why do I have to stay at the office? This billionaire should read deep wor
by bob_theslob646 9y ago
Who would want to work for someone like this? If I can get my work done efficiently, why do I have to stay at the office?
This billionaire should read deep work, maybe he would attract more talent.
>“I want people who sleep in the office,” says Mr. Alabbar, the founder of the now three-month-old startup. “Want to go walk your dog in the afternoon and all that? I’m not the guy you work for.”
- pokstad 9y agoSounds like Elon.
- adventured 9y agoNo, not really. Tesla + SpaceX have ~25,000 employees. While Musk is without a doubt a hard charger, always pushing his employees, it's a pretty big leap to suggest those 25,000 employees are all working 80 hours per week, sleeping under their desks, and can't walk their dogs in the afternoon. Here's the actual reality: 99% of those 25,000 employees are on normal work schedules, with normal work expectations. There are no organizations of that scale in the US where the employees all work crazy hours and sleep under their desks; quite the opposite, organizations that large always drift toward the middle by necessity (they can't attract tens of thousands of workers in a highly competitive labor market otherwise).
- dbcurtis 9y agoDo you actually know any Tesla employees personally? Because I know one ex-Tesla and two current Tesla employees. Tesla sounds like a burn-out factory once you have a deep conversation about the reality of working there.
- bornonline1 9y agoFactories in general aren't known as a great workplaces. A great factory is barely 'ok place to work there'. Everyone knows that they are stuck in their salary bracket, you don't have the energy to educate yourself for a better job, competition between promotions is high and even if you become a line manager , you still have all the problems. I worked in a factory. It's almost impossible to build a large factory with great work environment.
- gaius 9y agoThere are no organizations of that scale in the US where the employees all work crazy hours and sleep under their desk The US Navy expects officers at sea to only sleep about 5 hours a day. This is implicated in at least 3 incidents of warship collisions.
- neotriple 9y agoI have no clue where you're getting your information from. But as an ex SpaceX'er with friends still working there and friends at Tesla, they absolutely work at least 70-80 hours a week. This is not an 'anomaly', but the norm. In addition, the expectations are incredibly high.
- jeandejean 9y agoWell at least Elon's got a vision and push innovation. How motivating is it to copy a business that is already ubiquitous and very efficient?
- balladeer 9y agoI think, in both the cases, the prime motivation would be money, if at all. Elon "pushing" innovation means zero for most sane employees unless paid handsomely and compensated for the loss of "life" (depends on what a person calls life, because I have colleagues who are happiest at the work place and make an effort to stay extra hours; w/o overtime). So speaking generally, both Elon and this Saudi billionaire are similarly bad employers if they advocate and push for for such unhealthy work-life balance.
- autotune 9y agoBasically the most desperate and cheapest available out there. Also the paywall causes the article to end at this quote, which is perfect because I have no desire to read any more of it.
- Mountain_Skies 9y agoLike so many startup founders, he expects everyone working for him to share his passion for his vision. It's an unrealistic expectation when your business depends on being able to scale rapidly and by orders of magnitude.
- gaius 9y agohe expects everyone working for him to share his passion for his vision. So long as they also have an equal share in the equity... oh wait
- bufferoverflow 9y agoAnd this: "Noon laid off at least 200 employees out of a total of 700 as it readied itself". That's quite insane for a startup taking on Amazon. I'm giving it 0.1% chance of outcompeting Amazon locally, zero chance globally.
- bitL 9y agoGive US working hours + 0% equity :D I am sure this is a recipe for unbelievable success... Did he get his inspiration in Berlin?
- ddorian43 9y agoPlease explain.
- bitL 9y agoIt's popular in German-speaking countries, especially in Berlin, to lure developers to work on startups, offering 0% equity, insane working hours (crushes), barely livable wages, low job protection (small companies can fire more-less at will), all for glory of owners getting pay off at the end if successful (mostly by copying existing US companies and adapting them to local market specifics), being subject to treatment as "idiots" as those owners can't value people that would voluntarily work for them under those circumstances of course.
- claudiug 9y agoooo Berlin, my amazing city. wannabe startup people, German mentality of taking any risk, cheap labor and hipster. Also, is not cheap anymore :)
- a012 9y agoSounds like a modern day of slavery.
- jswizzy 9y agoThey actually have real slavery in Dubai and I'm guessing because this guy is in real estate that he is probably involved in that.
- throwaway31321 9y agoAmusing, considering that his employees are likely to have also been sourced from India.
- dan_quixote 9y agoArbeit macht frei
- richardknop 9y agoSlavery is well and alive in many middle eastern countries. Especially in construction industry often work is done by foreigners who are treated basically like slaves, often their passports being held and them forced to work for very little money.
- doppp 9y agoSounds like Bezos.
- myf01d 9y agoHe means he simply wants hardworking and smart slaves whose only mission in life is to achieve his goals and increase his wealth
- Audible_logic 9y agoFollow that up with firing 200 out of 700 employees when money became an issue. Sounds like an amazing career opportunity. If nothing else, you will leave with a new appreciation for you next opportunity at a realistically demanding organization...