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Why do we always declare war on things we know we can’t possibly beat? Drugs... rats... terror... might as well declare war on entropy and human nature. Rats wi

Why do we always declare war on things we know we can’t possibly beat? Drugs... rats... terror... might as well declare war on entropy and human nature. Rats will be here long after we’re gone, and until then we’ll never be far from them; such is life.

thekashifmalik 9y ago
This is great.
booleandilemma 9y ago
George Orwell has something to say about this: https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/386688-the-war-therefore-if-we-judge-it-by-the-standards https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/386688-the-war-therefore-if...
Gibbon1 9y ago
I hate the war metaphor too. You'll never get rid of rats entirely. Controlling rat populations in cities is really about food sources. The number of rats is limited by the amount of continuous non seasonal food sources available. In this case it seems like the city needs better garbage cans. Proper maintenance to keep rats out of housing helps with the nuisance aspect. Because rats are destructive. One wonders, if you got rid of rats, what would take their place? No idea, might be worse. I think the current brown rats aren't actually a disease vector[1]. I've read speculation that the decline of the plague was due to brown rats displacing black rats in cities. Maybe brown rats are doing us a favor. [1] Rat lung worm in Hawaii though is a zoonotic nuisance. Also a friend got rat lice once.
- ams6110 9y ago
  > One wonders, if you got rid of rats, what would take their place? No idea, might be worse. Many cities don't have a significant rat problem and they don't seem to have anything worse as a consequence.
  - Gibbon1 9y ago
    Friend of mine had a large hedge that ran the length of his property in a nice suburban neighborhood. Thing was a rat highway. Meaning if you think there aren't any rats in your neighborhood, you're mistaken. Probably as many rats as people. The urban forest provides.
goatlover 9y ago
It's a bit disturbing that it's the go to metaphor for promoting policies.

thekashifmalik 9y ago

This is great.

booleandilemma 9y ago

George Orwell has something to say about this: https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/386688-the-war-therefore-if-we-judge-it-by-the-standards https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/386688-the-war-therefore-if...

Gibbon1 9y ago

I hate the war metaphor too. You'll never get rid of rats entirely. Controlling rat populations in cities is really about food sources. The number of rats is limited by the amount of continuous non seasonal food sources available. In this case it seems like the city needs better garbage cans. Proper maintenance to keep rats out of housing helps with the nuisance aspect. Because rats are destructive. One wonders, if you got rid of rats, what would take their place? No idea, might be worse. I think the current brown rats aren't actually a disease vector[1]. I've read speculation that the decline of the plague was due to brown rats displacing black rats in cities. Maybe brown rats are doing us a favor. [1] Rat lung worm in Hawaii though is a zoonotic nuisance. Also a friend got rat lice once.

ams6110 9y ago
> One wonders, if you got rid of rats, what would take their place? No idea, might be worse. Many cities don't have a significant rat problem and they don't seem to have anything worse as a consequence.
- Gibbon1 9y ago
  Friend of mine had a large hedge that ran the length of his property in a nice suburban neighborhood. Thing was a rat highway. Meaning if you think there aren't any rats in your neighborhood, you're mistaken. Probably as many rats as people. The urban forest provides.

goatlover 9y ago

It's a bit disturbing that it's the go to metaphor for promoting policies.