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Not a single talk, but a series: Jordan Peterson’s Psychological Significance of the Bible Stories. As an atheist I found his explanations extremely interestin

Not a single talk, but a series: Jordan Peterson’s Psychological Significance of the Bible Stories. As an atheist I found his explanations extremely interesting. Peterson is a brilliant scholar and draws connections between psychology and brain structures, human evolution, and religion. I don’t believe in any trascendental being, but listening to these lectures made me understand better the psychological and moral value of these stories, regardless of belief in the supernatural. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL22J3VaeABQD_IZs7y60I3lUrrFTzkpat https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL22J3VaeABQD_IZs7y60I...

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wu-ikkyu 9y ago
>listening to these lectures made me understand better the psychological and moral value of these stories You might enjoy the Power of Myth by Joseph Campbell.
- DeusExMachina 9y ago
  I am tangentially familiar with the work of Campbell, but yes. Peterson often talks about the hero myth and outher Jungian archetypes.
dkoubsky 9y ago
I have to agree. Peterson's lectures were the most interesting and beneficial things that I listened to this year.
- DeusExMachina 9y ago
  Hands down. I can say I am a very different person from The one I was before listening to him. Roughly speaking ;)
youdontknowtho 9y ago
Isn't Jordan Peterson also famous for being a proponent of racial IQ theories? I'm really skeptical about IQ in general, but anyone popular with the far right really makes me suspicious. I'll take a look at the link you provided...But man, there are an awful lot of 1488 types that support this guy. It really makes me question where he is coming from.
- superquest 9y ago
  For anyone who cares, here's a 90 min video interview with Peterson and a prominent intelligence researcher: https://youtu.be/PY4sShDt9to https://youtu.be/PY4sShDt9to
- 1000units 9y ago
  He's a psychology professor, formerly at Harvard now at UoT. He knows about IQ, and he's not far right. You should convert some of that politically biased 'skepticism' into dispassionate inquiry.
  - youdontknowtho 9y ago
    Yeah, it's ok to just "ask questions" about black people being subhumans. Right? The appeal to authority is cute, though.
    - azangru 9y ago
      Are you of the opinion that some questions should not be asked (even if they can be formulated in a testable, formalized way) no matter what? Also, would you consider that it's all right to ask questions about correlations between race/ethnicity and the incidence of heart disease / hypertension / sickle-cell anemia etc., but not about correlations between race/ethnicity and IQ? (I don't have a dog in this fight, and I understand that IQ measurement is a very unreliable and culturally predicated way of measuring intelligence; I am just curious about the way that people who are indignant about such inquiries think.)
      - 9y ago
superquest 9y ago
Agreed. After going through these lectures I was able to read the Old Testament for the first time. Previous attempts stalled because I couldn't really make sense of it, and because it didn't seem very interesting.
mclightning 9y ago
What a coincidence! I just discovered Jordan Peterson on Joe Rogan show few weeks ago and been binge watching his talks since then. I get a certain feel of skepticism every now and then whether he actually represents any fascist ideas. Not because of his talks, but rather how they are edited out of context, used in "Stupid liberal got owned by Jordan Peterson" videos with these kind of aggressive titles. That aside, he is really enlightening in these frustrating times.
- DeusExMachina 9y ago
  I might suggest to look at the full videos instead of the edits, especially if they have a clickbait title. They are usually one-hour long videos or more, I know. But that clears every doubt.
  - 0xcde4c3db 9y ago
    Are there copyedited transcripts or lecture notes somewhere? I'm interested in giving Peterson's ideas a fair shake, but I'm not interested in sitting through hours of him talking on YouTube. I find his style of speech confusing, and the audio quality is often pretty poor on top of that.
    - mclightning 9y ago
      I also share that confusion while listening to his talks. I would imagine his ideas spoken in a way like Richard Feynman, would make paradigm shifting effect to current mainstream ideas. He should maybe adopt a more journey-like story telling, or more analogies. Maybe avoid references to "whatever-isms" etc. Also less tangents and sticking to main topic would improve.
- maroonblazer 9y ago
  I'd heard a lot of good things about JBP and my first experience of him was his first conversation with Sam Harris[0]. His attempt to redefine the word "truth" was frustrating and consequently I've struggled to work up the energy to listen to anything else. [0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gdpyzwOOYY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gdpyzwOOYY
ryan-allen 9y ago
I found him via his Personality and it's Transformations lecture series (I love psychometrics!), I very much enjoy watching his lectures on whatever he does, he is very sincere and honest.
nicolashahn 9y ago
I like these ones (and even having attended Catholic high school, it was the first piece of media that made me actually realize how much human wisdom could be embedded in religious texts), but found his 2017 Maps of Meaning lectures more impactful, personally. He uses his archetypal lens on Pinocchio instead of Genesis for the first few lectures. There's a lot of content overlap but if you liked the Biblical series, definitely check out Maps of Meaning. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8Xc2_FtpHI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8Xc2_FtpHI
erlend_sh 9y ago
A complimentary resource to this series: “What is the Bible?” by Rob Bell - https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/31706459-what-is-the-bible https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/31706459-what-is-the-bib...

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wu-ikkyu 9y ago

>listening to these lectures made me understand better the psychological and moral value of these stories You might enjoy the Power of Myth by Joseph Campbell.

DeusExMachina 9y ago
I am tangentially familiar with the work of Campbell, but yes. Peterson often talks about the hero myth and outher Jungian archetypes.

dkoubsky 9y ago

I have to agree. Peterson's lectures were the most interesting and beneficial things that I listened to this year.

DeusExMachina 9y ago
Hands down. I can say I am a very different person from The one I was before listening to him. Roughly speaking ;)

youdontknowtho 9y ago

Isn't Jordan Peterson also famous for being a proponent of racial IQ theories? I'm really skeptical about IQ in general, but anyone popular with the far right really makes me suspicious. I'll take a look at the link you provided...But man, there are an awful lot of 1488 types that support this guy. It really makes me question where he is coming from.

superquest 9y ago
For anyone who cares, here's a 90 min video interview with Peterson and a prominent intelligence researcher: https://youtu.be/PY4sShDt9to https://youtu.be/PY4sShDt9to
1000units 9y ago
He's a psychology professor, formerly at Harvard now at UoT. He knows about IQ, and he's not far right. You should convert some of that politically biased 'skepticism' into dispassionate inquiry.
- youdontknowtho 9y ago
  Yeah, it's ok to just "ask questions" about black people being subhumans. Right? The appeal to authority is cute, though.
  - azangru 9y ago
    Are you of the opinion that some questions should not be asked (even if they can be formulated in a testable, formalized way) no matter what? Also, would you consider that it's all right to ask questions about correlations between race/ethnicity and the incidence of heart disease / hypertension / sickle-cell anemia etc., but not about correlations between race/ethnicity and IQ? (I don't have a dog in this fight, and I understand that IQ measurement is a very unreliable and culturally predicated way of measuring intelligence; I am just curious about the way that people who are indignant about such inquiries think.)
    - 9y ago

superquest 9y ago

Agreed. After going through these lectures I was able to read the Old Testament for the first time. Previous attempts stalled because I couldn't really make sense of it, and because it didn't seem very interesting.

mclightning 9y ago

What a coincidence! I just discovered Jordan Peterson on Joe Rogan show few weeks ago and been binge watching his talks since then. I get a certain feel of skepticism every now and then whether he actually represents any fascist ideas. Not because of his talks, but rather how they are edited out of context, used in "Stupid liberal got owned by Jordan Peterson" videos with these kind of aggressive titles. That aside, he is really enlightening in these frustrating times.

DeusExMachina 9y ago
I might suggest to look at the full videos instead of the edits, especially if they have a clickbait title. They are usually one-hour long videos or more, I know. But that clears every doubt.
- 0xcde4c3db 9y ago
  Are there copyedited transcripts or lecture notes somewhere? I'm interested in giving Peterson's ideas a fair shake, but I'm not interested in sitting through hours of him talking on YouTube. I find his style of speech confusing, and the audio quality is often pretty poor on top of that.
  - mclightning 9y ago
    I also share that confusion while listening to his talks. I would imagine his ideas spoken in a way like Richard Feynman, would make paradigm shifting effect to current mainstream ideas. He should maybe adopt a more journey-like story telling, or more analogies. Maybe avoid references to "whatever-isms" etc. Also less tangents and sticking to main topic would improve.
maroonblazer 9y ago
I'd heard a lot of good things about JBP and my first experience of him was his first conversation with Sam Harris[0]. His attempt to redefine the word "truth" was frustrating and consequently I've struggled to work up the energy to listen to anything else. [0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gdpyzwOOYY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gdpyzwOOYY

ryan-allen 9y ago

I found him via his Personality and it's Transformations lecture series (I love psychometrics!), I very much enjoy watching his lectures on whatever he does, he is very sincere and honest.

nicolashahn 9y ago

I like these ones (and even having attended Catholic high school, it was the first piece of media that made me actually realize how much human wisdom could be embedded in religious texts), but found his 2017 Maps of Meaning lectures more impactful, personally. He uses his archetypal lens on Pinocchio instead of Genesis for the first few lectures. There's a lot of content overlap but if you liked the Biblical series, definitely check out Maps of Meaning. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8Xc2_FtpHI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8Xc2_FtpHI

erlend_sh 9y ago

A complimentary resource to this series: “What is the Bible?” by Rob Bell - https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/31706459-what-is-the-bible https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/31706459-what-is-the-bib...