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Apple is in this situation because they've very invested in having the fastest mobile processor on paper. So you get a high performing part when your phone is n

Apple is in this situation because they've very invested in having the fastest mobile processor on paper. So you get a high performing part when your phone is new, and all the reviews and benchmarks are done with the high performing part, but after a while the battery can't handle it, so they're forced into these shenanigans.

lev99 9y ago
Simple solution. Replace your battery once a year.
MBCook 9y ago
It’s not like android phones are purposefully running with multi year old chips to avoid this issue. The high-end found they are all rush to have the newest chips as well. I’ll ignore the “on paper“ comment. It was totally unnecessary.
- mtgx 9y ago
  His point was that Apple's latest chips promise something like 2x the performance of the best Qualcomm or Samsung chip. If that gain is indeed real, or mostly real, then the difference may be explained by the fact that Apple makes some compromises that other chip makers don't - such as increasing the boost performance of the chip more than the battery and the heat management can handle. As for the "on paper" claim, I think it's justified, because largely we only know the Apple chips are "so much faster" from synthetic benchmarks. But in real world tests it doesn't seem to make much of a difference.
  - MBCook 9y ago
    It’s the “on paper“ that I took issue with. From what I’ve seen from developers (which is admittedly limited) the chips Apple has do seem to be incredibly fast. Between that and the benchmarks I have no reason to think Apple chips are artificially optimized to look good on benchmarks and aren’t noticeably better on normal tasks.
    - strictnein 9y ago
      > I have no reason to think Apple chips are artificially optimized to look good on benchmarks I never stated that. My point was that they wanted their processors to benchmark above everyone else's, and this quest for the highest performance numbers in synthetic benchmarks (aka on paper) has lead them to a bad place.

lev99 9y ago

Simple solution. Replace your battery once a year.

MBCook 9y ago

It’s not like android phones are purposefully running with multi year old chips to avoid this issue. The high-end found they are all rush to have the newest chips as well. I’ll ignore the “on paper“ comment. It was totally unnecessary.

mtgx 9y ago
His point was that Apple's latest chips promise something like 2x the performance of the best Qualcomm or Samsung chip. If that gain is indeed real, or mostly real, then the difference may be explained by the fact that Apple makes some compromises that other chip makers don't - such as increasing the boost performance of the chip more than the battery and the heat management can handle. As for the "on paper" claim, I think it's justified, because largely we only know the Apple chips are "so much faster" from synthetic benchmarks. But in real world tests it doesn't seem to make much of a difference.
- MBCook 9y ago
  It’s the “on paper“ that I took issue with. From what I’ve seen from developers (which is admittedly limited) the chips Apple has do seem to be incredibly fast. Between that and the benchmarks I have no reason to think Apple chips are artificially optimized to look good on benchmarks and aren’t noticeably better on normal tasks.
  - strictnein 9y ago
    > I have no reason to think Apple chips are artificially optimized to look good on benchmarks I never stated that. My point was that they wanted their processors to benchmark above everyone else's, and this quest for the highest performance numbers in synthetic benchmarks (aka on paper) has lead them to a bad place.