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Maybe the biggest failure is to call it 'intelligence'. It seams just a ball trained to fall in a certain sink. Maybe call it artificial selection? Experiences

Maybe the biggest failure is to call it 'intelligence'. It seams just a ball trained to fall in a certain sink. Maybe call it artificial selection? Experiences with 'selection' in human history didn't had the nicest outcome. Curious what the artifical one will produce :o

quotemstr 9y ago
"Selection" is responsible for all good outcomes, including the entire course of natural history that led to your comment. Natural selection got us mitochondria, eyes, legs, thumbs. Sexual selection gave us a brain capable of reasoning about itself. Machine learning is just the next step in that progression. It's amazing that the culmination of 3.7 billion years of selection is a mind that can come up with elaborate ways to cast aspersions on the selection mechanism that spawned it. You know why I love machine learning? It's immune to anti-intellectual fads. It speaks the same truth that children do. While you can make an algorithm spit out the answers you want, you have to explicitly train it to do so, making the selective blindness and hypocrisy we demand crystal clear.
- selestify 9y ago
  Machine learning is not immune to biased data collection. Poor data in, poor models out. I am really curious though, how did sexual selection help us evolve our brains?
  - mythrwy 9y ago
    Smarter males were more able to get mates (perhaps through control of resources among other things)? Smarter mates were, or were able to make themselves appear, more attractive? To me it's fairly evident that sexual selection played a large role in brain development.
    - anonytrary 9y ago
      You are probably not wrong.
      - ralfd 9y ago
        He is likely right, because genes for intelligence are very often on the X-chromosome: https://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/201109/the-incredible-expanding-adventures-the-x-chromosome https://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/201109/the-incredib...
    - moonbug22 9y ago
      Cool story, bro.
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- mauritzio 9y ago
  Crystal clear blindness indeed.

quotemstr 9y ago

"Selection" is responsible for all good outcomes, including the entire course of natural history that led to your comment. Natural selection got us mitochondria, eyes, legs, thumbs. Sexual selection gave us a brain capable of reasoning about itself. Machine learning is just the next step in that progression. It's amazing that the culmination of 3.7 billion years of selection is a mind that can come up with elaborate ways to cast aspersions on the selection mechanism that spawned it. You know why I love machine learning? It's immune to anti-intellectual fads. It speaks the same truth that children do. While you can make an algorithm spit out the answers you want, you have to explicitly train it to do so, making the selective blindness and hypocrisy we demand crystal clear.

selestify 9y ago
Machine learning is not immune to biased data collection. Poor data in, poor models out. I am really curious though, how did sexual selection help us evolve our brains?
- mythrwy 9y ago
  Smarter males were more able to get mates (perhaps through control of resources among other things)? Smarter mates were, or were able to make themselves appear, more attractive? To me it's fairly evident that sexual selection played a large role in brain development.
  - anonytrary 9y ago
    You are probably not wrong.
    - ralfd 9y ago
      He is likely right, because genes for intelligence are very often on the X-chromosome: https://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/201109/the-incredible-expanding-adventures-the-x-chromosome https://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/201109/the-incredib...
  - moonbug22 9y ago
    Cool story, bro.
    - deleted 9y ago
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mauritzio 9y ago
Crystal clear blindness indeed.