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Live CO2 emissions of electricity consumption
- DamonHD 9y agoShame it's still higher intensity than the UK at the moment (just)! (And indeed my calcs don't quite match yours http://www.earth.org.uk/_gridCarbonIntensityGB.html http://www.earth.org.uk/_gridCarbonIntensityGB.html anyway!)
- jasoncartwright 9y agoThey don't match mine either - https://electricityproduction.uk https://electricityproduction.uk Or http://www.gridcarbon.uk http://www.gridcarbon.uk
- patall 9y agoFor Germany as well: https://www.agora-energiewende.de/en/topics/-agothem-/Produkt/produkt/76/Agorameter/ https://www.agora-energiewende.de/en/topics/-agothem-/Produk... Its very likely because they only use projected production and use.
- corradio 9y agoCalculations details are here: https://github.com/tmrowco/electricitymap#carbon-intensity-calculation-and-data-source https://github.com/tmrowco/electricitymap#carbon-intensity-c... We use IPCC LCA data for the production mix, and use a coupled linear system of equations to take into account imports in a dynamic manner. Generation data is realtime and comes from ENTSOE (https://transparency.entsoe.eu https://transparency.entsoe.eu)
- jasoncartwright 9y agoVery cool. I'm using UK-specific carbon intensity values, and breaking down different uses of the same fuel (OCGT & CCGT). I've not baked in transmission loss yet. Our results are surprisingly similar though.
- corradio 9y agoFeel free to submit a pull request to update our numbers!
- adrianN 9y agoDespite a huge proportion of wind Germany still produces nearly twice as much CO2 per kWh than France :(
- dx034 9y agoBut that's due to nuclear. I don't support coal plants but Germany is on the right trajectory to lower emissions in a sustainable way. France will still have to go through that process at some point, it's not as if they'd figured out what to do with nuclear waste.
- adrianN 9y agoWe could have shut down our coal plants first and our nuclear plants later and would have much reduced total emissions. But we chose to do it the other way round.
- raverbashing 9y agoThank the "environmentalists"
- static_noise 9y agoThere was also that incident in Fukushima that turned the political tides against nuclear power.
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- justinjlynn 9y agoHumans are terrible at evaluating rare but expensive failure modes. Nuclear power is far safer than just coal mining operations, even taking into account accidents.
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- dx034 9y agoShocking to see Australia's carbon emissions from electricity production. Australia has abundant space for wind and solar (and a lot of solar potential) and still gets most of the electricity from coal..
- greglindahl 9y agoAustralia's energy is so expensive -- despite most of it coming from coal -- that going off-grid with wind and solar and some batteries is disturbingly cost-effective.
- cknight 9y agoWe're a basket case down here. The lack of certainty surrounding energy policy means there's much less appetite for investment in this area than there should be. Don't get me wrong, stuff is happening[1], but not at the rate it should be in a country with the properties you've mentioned. [1] - http://www.smh.com.au/business/energy/australia-s-largest-solar-plant-to-build-in-2018-20171205-p4yxem.html http://www.smh.com.au/business/energy/australia-s-largest-so...
- Maarten88 9y agoTogether with the Netherlands. We don't even show as a data point on this map, but it's bad. Lots of NIMBY here with wind energy, new government has just started talking about shutting down a few coal plants, we are far behind our promises.
- Fnoord 9y agoWhen you travel from The Netherlands to Germany, the sure way to recognise the border is all the wind mills. FWIW here's a Wikipedia entry on the Dutch situation [1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renewable_energy_in_the_Netherlands https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renewable_energy_in_the_Nether...
- digi_owl 9y agoI suspect lobbying to be an element. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal_in_Australia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal_in_Australia
- tomtomistaken 9y agoDo you know any other open/free live datasets like they used for the map?
- jasoncartwright 9y agohttps://github.com/tmrowco/electricitymap#real-time-electricity-data-sources https://github.com/tmrowco/electricitymap#real-time-electric...
- smuemd 9y agohttp://mix.stromhaltig.de/gsi/ http://mix.stromhaltig.de/gsi/
- waytogo 9y agoAnd record high nuclear production in France... Anyone knows why?
- vongomben 9y agoFrance has always been investing in nuclear energy, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Électricité_de_France https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Électricité_de_France
- philipkglass 9y agoFrance's 2017 nuclear generation is well below record levels: https://www.platts.com/latest-news/electric-power/london/france-on-track-for-record-low-nuclear-in-2017-26858435 https://www.platts.com/latest-news/electric-power/london/fra... According to S&P Global Platts calculations based on reactor availability, output is unlikely to reach 380 TWh this year. Based on cumulative output of 361 TWh by December 17, output would need to average 56.5 GW over the final two weeks in 2017 to even reach 380 TWh, the TSO data-based calculations shows. Nuclear output averaged just below 50 GW so far this December, up from 42 GW in November, the data shows. ... EDF operates France's 58 nuclear reactors. But following record production years in 2014 and 2015 at 416 TWh, it has struggled with extended outages and lower nuclear production.
- foreigner 9y agoMisleading headline! The Germans aren't producing wind - except those who are too much sauerkraut.
- bad_alloc 9y agoAt christmas we're all sitting on our asses at home and farting. So a lot of wind is actually being produced!
- agumonkey 9y agoLet's put wind farm on climate change amplified tornados and profit.
- PeterStuer 9y agoWhile I appreciate the effort, the map is misleading as the scoring/coloring is purely focused on Carbon emissions. This means things like Nuclear power, ecologically disastrous in the long term, get a nice thumbs up (see France e.g.) because of their short term 'benefits'.
- static_noise 9y agoWhat is the problem with nuclear energy? It is very safe and very clean and provides near limitless power. Our technology has been much advanced in the last decades. Now we would only need to build next generation (Thorium) reactors. At least that's what the hivemind here told me.
- byroot 9y agoFrench here. Besides the advantages you mentioned, the downsides the opposants talk about are: - aging power plants, we haven't build any in a long time and many are now passed the initial lifetime expetency, but can't be shutdown as they should since there is no replacement ready - price not taking plants destruction into account. None have been fully destructed yet, so we don't know how much it coat exactly but it's far from cheap since you have tons of midly radioactive material to treat - still no proper way to dispose of the waste. There research etc, but right bow we're basically storing lots of materials that will be radioactive for millennias - new generation plants project (EPR) is many years late and many times over budget because of critical defects in components. - probably other arguments I forgot I am personally undecided on the matter, but what is certain is that nuclear might be the best solution we have, but it certainly isn't without downsides.
- static_noise 9y agoWhy don't we just dump the radioactive material into the ocean to dilute it sufficiently? Apparently that's what solved most of the Fukushima problem.
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- nabla9 9y agoToo bad that Germany uses coal to regulate wind power output fluctuations. These record production peaks are sold as good things, but they are negative aspect of wind power. Only 20 percent or less of installed wind power capacity is available 90 percent of time.
- CraigJPerry 9y agoSo if most of the time you cut usage of finite resources by 20% - what is the down side? They can afford it so what is the harm?
- nabla9 9y agoCo reductions are critical but it's very capital intensive prosess. We don't have time to waste resources for inefficiencies and marginal improvements.
- erk__ 9y agoIn denmark they are converting a lot of power plants to use straw and grain. I think the goal is to stop use non renwables sometime in the next 10 years.
- lispm 9y agoI live in North Germany and there is lots of wind. The new wind turbines in the North Sea are quite efficient. In a decade, North Germany will have a surplus of electricity and storage will be more useful. For example a one GW dc powerline will then be operational to Norway for storage - with one or two more possible. Storage in old gas storage systems either as air, windgas or in large batteries will start to be common...
- ralfd 9y agoGreat, but this is the other side of the coin: https://www.energy-charts.de/power.htm?source=all-sources&week=51&year=2017 https://www.energy-charts.de/power.htm?source=all-sources&we... Look at the beginning of the week on 18.December and Wind+Solar are only 5% to electricity production. Over 50% now. 5% then. What is the end game here? Duplicate the whole infrastructure and have backup coal/gas/nuclear plants for half the time? That is why Germanys electricity prices are so high. France: 17 cent per kwh vs Germany: 29 cent per kwh
- Strom 9y agoHow inefficient and/or environmentally unfriendly would it be to store the excess in batteries of some sort? I've heard that scheme pitched for solar quite a bit, so why not use the same strategy of buffering for wind?
- idlewords 9y agoBetter than batteries is pumping water uphill into reservoirs when there is a power surplus, then recovering it as a normal hydropower plant when there is a deficit.
- foepys 9y agoGovernments are hesitating to use this because pump storage has major environmental impact. It just needs _a lot_ of space. You also need mountains for that and not every country has those. There is some research going into putting concrete spheres into the ocean and pumping water in and out of them. The principle is the same but it doesn't need hundreds of hectares of forest to be cleared.
- IndrekR 9y agoEven more efficient is to control the flow in a hydroelectric plant by stopping the generation when the demand is low. This removes the cost of pumping. If there is sufficient reserve water capacity it is done in places where the energy price depends on the market and economic incentives are there.
- rurban 9y agoAnd also more biomass than coal! Still, those dirty coal cancer producers need to close down. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_least_carbon_efficient_power_stations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_least_carbon_efficient...
- phoobot 9y agoI don't understand how these electricity production numbers are to be understood. Neither net nor gross energy production seem to match the numbers depicted for Germany. Why does it say, that Germany is producing 61% of its power from wind energy, when most other sources only report around 40%? https://www.cleanenergywire.org/sites/default/files/styles/lightbox_image/public/images/factsheet/fig2-gross-power-production-germany-1990-2017-1.png?itok=klV3qdJ3 https://www.cleanenergywire.org/sites/default/files/styles/l... https://www.cleanenergywire.org/sites/default/files/styles/lightbox_image/public/images/factsheet/fig1-installed-net-power-generation-capacity-germany-2002-2016.png?itok=CA958Qku https://www.cleanenergywire.org/sites/default/files/styles/l...
- Strom 9y agoThe key to understanding is time. Those charts your linked show averages for whole years. However the original link in question here is live data. Based on the charts it seems the percentage is updated every 15 minutes.
- rurban 9y agoAnd look at Guatemala: https://www.electricitymap.org/?page=country&countryCode=GT https://www.electricitymap.org/?page=country&countryCode=GT 46% biomass! More than hydro, wind or anything else. This should be a role model.
- tbarbugli 9y agoYet the primary source of energy for Germany is coal.
- zeristor 9y agoThis is the website I've been looking for! Gathering together power generation and CO2 emissions for the whole world, albeit those that are publishing the data. Strange that the data for Netherlands, Italy, and Texas are missing. Is this charged for, confidential, or just not collected?
- brunolaj 9y agoItaly is temporarily missing (IT problem), will be back soon. Netherlands is not yet disclosing real-time figure for fossil-thermal power plant output. Texas has not yet been investigated for addition to the map. Will hopefully happen soon! feel free to contribute by adding the parser to the open source github repo https://github.com/tmrowco/electricitymap https://github.com/tmrowco/electricitymap
- jsingleton 9y agoFor the UK (and France) this has a lot of geeky detail: http://www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk/ http://www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk/ UK data (inc. solar) with CO2 emissions in app form: http://gridcarbon.uk/ http://gridcarbon.uk/
- tunichtgut 9y agoElectricity from wind is nice, but on the other hand there are mass layoffs in the fossil fuel industry, like siemens and general electric owned plants in germany are shutting down. Whole cities, like Görlitz, are drowning now. The nuclear industry was butchered, too. All in all, the EEG is causing massive losses to germany and the environment (dont forget the outsourced damage to nature in china inflicted by solar panel production!). Deutschland has the highest CO2 emissions of all times and the highest cost of electricity of all times now. This is a severe warning to the world! Never use a socialist approach!
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