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"The question is, if toilet paper becomes a luxury item, can Americans live without it?" The article itself appears to be part of the marketing machine. I don
by jacknews 9y ago
"The question is, if toilet paper becomes a luxury item, can Americans live without it?"
The article itself appears to be part of the marketing machine. I don't at all consider toilet paper a luxury, in fact using water seems far more satisfactory and hygienic.
Japanese style washlets and european bidets are the luxury, um, end, of the market. If anything, plain toilet paper is set to be discarded as a rather unhygienic relic.
- GreaterFool 9y agoI hate traveling outside Japan! Can't live without "shower toilets" (that's how they're called here). It's hardly a luxury. It's an essential household equipment! I feel like I'm going to barbarian lands when I leave Japan (for the sake of full disclosure, I'm not Japanese)
- giancarlostoro 9y agoYou could also just try using Baby wipes?
- thomastjeffery 9y agoIt's a bad idea to flush those. They don't degrade, and end up blocking sewers and ruin septic systems.
- kyrra 9y agoThere are flushable versions. https://www.walmart.com/ip/Huggies-Pull-Ups-Big-Kid-Flushable-Wipes-51-count/23746171 https://www.walmart.com/ip/Huggies-Pull-Ups-Big-Kid-Flushabl...
- Dylan16807 9y agoThey sure do say that. Don't believe them.
- StudentStuff 9y agoIts like flushable golf balls, anyone can write flushable on some packaging and sell it! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgHVO-RZ8c4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgHVO-RZ8c4
- nugi 9y agoNot even a little bit.
- PhasmaFelis 9y agoThose are generally "flushable" in the same sense that gravel is flushable, i.e. they'll fit through the bottom of the toilet but no guarantees after that.
- usaphp 9y agoThere are flushable wipes: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N288ZXE/ https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N288ZXE/
- nugi 9y agoI see you have never lived outside the city. Those will ruin any septic system in a hurry. Not great for city sewage. Where do yiu think wipes go when you flush them? Away? Someone has to deal with it eventually.
- nerflad 9y agoYou're absolutely right, but the marketing for these is misleading. Many people think it's okay since they're advertised as being flushable.
- PoachedSausage 9y agoThey help Fatbergs to form. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatberg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatberg
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- nils-m-holm 9y agoOr just soak ordinary toilet paper in water before using it. It's cheaper and doesn't congest the pipes.
- sergiotapia 9y agohttps://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A0RHSJO/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A0RHSJO/ref=oh_aui_deta... $35 and you can install it in about 5 minutes flat. It's terrific, can't go back to TP ever.
- esaym 9y agoThe water that comes out of my tap is about 43*F right now so no thanks....
- m_mueller 9y agoJapanese washlets heat it up, as well as your seat. Including temperature and pressure control. Pretty awesome, I wonder why everyone else thought around 1970 that toilets are good enough now.
- Pica_soO 9y agoAnything heating up water, makes it necessary to to install a water softening plant or either the device - and/or the piping is in for a change after 15 to 25 years (depending on the lime levels in your water table). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_softening https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_softening PS: Dont be fooled to buy a system with mandatory ion-exchanger cartdrige. All one needs is salt to rejuvenate the ion exchanger.
- Anderkent 9y agoWhy is it a problem to change the device every 15-25 years?
- Tharkun 9y agoThe butthole is surprisingly temperature tolerant. Can't speak for the female anatomy in this regard, however.
- 0xBA5ED 9y agoThis. Cheap, easy, and more thorough. In retrospect, scraping off with dry paper seems silly...
- RobertRoberts 9y agoI keep a lotion bottle next to my toilet. Not only is lotion cheap, it's lubricating as it cleans, so it helps make the next wipe cleaner than just using a wet wipe! Lotion ftw. I visited Japan, they had so many awesome toilets, I had to take videos and photos of all the crazy versions and options in restaurants, public, at home etc... they are awesome. Also, the standard toilet conserves water by adding a small hand washing sink to the top of the tank, brilliant! Google this, as it's so common sense, I can't understand why it hasn't spread wider. This kind of toilet allows for a tiny extra bathroom, without the need of a sink, and it's still sanitary.
- jpollock 9y agoThe problem with the sink in the top is that the soap encourages algal growth in the tank. It's the same reason you shouldn't use grey water to flush.
- RobertRoberts 9y agoThat's interesting, but doesn't algae need light to grow? The tanks are solid porcelain. Even our fish tank, if not near a window won't grow algae, move it near a window and 2 days later it's turning green. Also, I looked in the tank, and it was spotless. I think any concerns of growth of anything in the tank are far outweighed by the water savings. I'd guess millions of gallons a year across Japan with just this one feature.
- Pica_soO 9y agoNo, some algae does not- they only need a source of energy (carbonhydrates). Google heterotrophe for more Info. PS: That is why algae can grow in sewers.
- RobertRoberts 9y agoWell, I guess maybe in Japan that is of little concern, as it's a common toilet design. lol, I googled "heterotrophe in toilet tank from soap" and your comment came up. :P I did some searching, I simply can't see any problems with this. Worst case it seems you have to clean your tank. Besides, doesn't the water and soap from your sink end up in the sewer anyway? Just not seeing the problem.
- LV-426 9y agoDoesn't anyone know how to use the three seashells? (Somewhat disappointingly) there is now an explanation for this: https://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/6688/how-did-the-three-seashells-work-in-demolition-man https://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/6688/how-did-the-t...