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Yes, but I mean, how much money does a person need? Why do I need to advance up the ladder? I just don’t see the point. I like living my life how I want. If I c

Yes, but I mean, how much money does a person need? Why do I need to advance up the ladder? I just don’t see the point. I like living my life how I want. If I could do that without a job at all, I would. Don’t get me wrong, it has its downsides other than the career advancement thing. But commuting and sitting in an open office with no privacy does too. On balance I prefer it. If you’re lonely, get a dog.

ozim 9y ago
If you plan to live up to 80 and take account of all health issues you might have by then I would say there is no upper limit on amount of money you need. So it is about the choice, life circumstances and some people like to advance, you don't have to.
- WimLeers 9y ago
  There are countries where health care is guaranteed.
  - adventured 9y ago
    It's a pretty safe bet that it will be in the US in the next 15-20 years as well (I know that's a sad time frame; the US has to reshape a ~$4 trillion entrenched market, which will take time). I say that based on the trends in the healthcare market. Insurers are being squeezed out of the bottom 2/3 of the market. It ultimately leaves only government coverage as the viable option for most people. About half of all people in the US currently receive some variation of government health coverage. Government-based coverage will continue to gradually walk its way up the income ladder by necessity due to costs. Republicans were entirely unable to end the ACA, despite majorities & the Presidency. Its latest enrollment period saw a massive sign-up. The likely scenario coming up near-term, is Democrats take the Senate & possibly the Presidency (not the House). Healthcare will see gradual stapled on improvements that basically guarantees everyone coverage. Each time the Democrats acquire majorities, they'll put more pieces into place. It's most likely to start out as guaranteed catastrophic coverage for the middle & lower middle class (poor people already have free healthcare), that's the next logical step from the components the ACA put into place. It'll be a messy process, that will ultimately end in guaranteed coverage (most of the top 1/4 will keep variations of employer coverage that provide various perks). As each of these pieces get put into place, Republicans will find it nearly impossible to take them back away from people (as we just witnessed, it was wildly unpopular when Republicans tried to get rid of denial of coverage protections for pre-existing conditions).
  - ozim 9y ago
    Basic health care, there is no magic in EU (I am not from US). Any savings that you will have can greatly improve your quality of life on retirement.
- draw_down 9y ago
  I might live till then. I also might get hit by a bus. I’m big on the idea of 80/20. Could I work twice as hard for significantly less than twice as much money, plus commute, plus stress myself out more? I could, but that sounds bad to me.

ozim 9y ago

If you plan to live up to 80 and take account of all health issues you might have by then I would say there is no upper limit on amount of money you need. So it is about the choice, life circumstances and some people like to advance, you don't have to.

WimLeers 9y ago
There are countries where health care is guaranteed.
- adventured 9y ago
  It's a pretty safe bet that it will be in the US in the next 15-20 years as well (I know that's a sad time frame; the US has to reshape a ~$4 trillion entrenched market, which will take time). I say that based on the trends in the healthcare market. Insurers are being squeezed out of the bottom 2/3 of the market. It ultimately leaves only government coverage as the viable option for most people. About half of all people in the US currently receive some variation of government health coverage. Government-based coverage will continue to gradually walk its way up the income ladder by necessity due to costs. Republicans were entirely unable to end the ACA, despite majorities & the Presidency. Its latest enrollment period saw a massive sign-up. The likely scenario coming up near-term, is Democrats take the Senate & possibly the Presidency (not the House). Healthcare will see gradual stapled on improvements that basically guarantees everyone coverage. Each time the Democrats acquire majorities, they'll put more pieces into place. It's most likely to start out as guaranteed catastrophic coverage for the middle & lower middle class (poor people already have free healthcare), that's the next logical step from the components the ACA put into place. It'll be a messy process, that will ultimately end in guaranteed coverage (most of the top 1/4 will keep variations of employer coverage that provide various perks). As each of these pieces get put into place, Republicans will find it nearly impossible to take them back away from people (as we just witnessed, it was wildly unpopular when Republicans tried to get rid of denial of coverage protections for pre-existing conditions).
- ozim 9y ago
  Basic health care, there is no magic in EU (I am not from US). Any savings that you will have can greatly improve your quality of life on retirement.
draw_down 9y ago
I might live till then. I also might get hit by a bus. I’m big on the idea of 80/20. Could I work twice as hard for significantly less than twice as much money, plus commute, plus stress myself out more? I could, but that sounds bad to me.